Right hand cramps after bout half hour?

[Wingsconsin]

Steve,

Got any pictures showing the installation? I wouldn't mind a throttle lock of some sort to give my right hand a break on those long straight roads but I can't see how it would fit on my bars, it looks like it mounts right where my master cylinder reservoir is.


Mark

Yep -- that's the one I am considering for next season - a picture would be very useful --

 

[Steve]

Let's see if Photobucket still works for me. :-k

This is on my wife's bike. The tape with markings was done so I could check throttle positions for plug chops.

The throttle lock is available in black or chrome. This one is obviously black. Mine is a mixture of both, will have to get a picture of it this evening when I get home.

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[posplayr]

Let's see if Photobucket still works for me. :-k

This is on my wife's bike. The tape with markings was done so I could check throttle positions for plug chops.

The throttle lock is available in black or chrome. This one is obviously black. Mine is a mixture of both, will have to get a picture of it this evening when I get home.

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You are obviously not using the $1 quick throttle mod

 

[2BRacing]

I use a NEP cruise control (model CC-4 for single cable Suzuki) and have never had problems. A simple "U" shaped clip fits over the throttle cable where it exits the housing, to keep the unit from rotating around with the throttle.

The friction adjustment is set so that you can still twist the throttle open or closed even with the cruise control engaged, but the friction is enough to keep the throttle at a steady opening.

The only negative point is that the lever is right at the top, making it difficult to engage/release with right thumb. I just bring left hand over to engage/release, because you do not need to do it often on the open road, anyway.

 

[Steve]

You are obviously not using the $1 quick throttle mod

Very observant. :encouragement:

In my mind, that would be counter-productive for the OP (81gs7501166) and not what he would be looking for. It also goes against what I need, too. The "quick throttle mod" increases the mechanical advantage for the carb, not for the user. When a given amount of rotation produces more pull on the cable, there HAS to be more effort involved. Absolutely great and wonderful if you are racing and have to have the throttles opened that many milliseconds sooner, but I have a mile-eating luxo-barge. although it occasionally sees redline, it's usually with less than full throttle. I just hold it a few seconds longer, I'm not in a hurry. :-\\\

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[Guest]

I have rheumatoid arthritis and will be 70 near the end of next month. I have found that grip shape and size, bar position and a well synced set of carburetors along with getting into shape to ride are more important than any throttle aids. The grip I use is larger in the middle than the ends and I use a grip saver over it. Straight grips will numb my hands in a heartbeat. I ride with three fingers resting on my brake lever with thumb and forefinger around the throttle and hold it in place on long rides with the outside heal of my hand resting on the top of the grip. My last ride was 4.5 hours up and back with an all day ride in between. I had no hand problems what so ever but it was quite hard on the rest of my body because I have had little chance to ride this year.

 

[posplayr]

Very observant. :encouragement:

In my mind, that would be counter-productive for the OP (81gs7501166) and not what he would be looking for. It also goes against what I need, too. The "quick throttle mod" increases the mechanical advantage for the carb, not for the user. When a given amount of rotation produces more pull on the cable, there HAS to be more effort involved. Absolutely great and wonderful if you are racing and have to have the throttles opened that many milliseconds sooner, but I have a mile-eating luxo-barge. although it occasionally sees redline, it's usually with less than full throttle. I just hold it a few seconds longer, I'm not in a hurry. :-\\\

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Despite the 20% increase in torque required with the $1 throttle mod, my own subjective ergonomic appraisal if that it eases stress on the wrist because the range of motion required of the wrist in substantially reduced. I'm sure there is a kinesiological basis for this but I have not tried to quantify it analytically.

I found the $1 mod to make riding my old GS750EX much more pleasurable simply because you don't have to contort your wrist as much when opening and closing the throttle (or worse regrip to get full twist). I was initially hesitant about putting the device on my 1166 GS1100ED. After a while, I tried it, and found it equally comfortable for the same simple reason that much less wrist movement was required. When I got a Kymoko 250 moped, I even fitted it with one to avoid annoying wrist flextures.

On the GS1100ED I also had the cruse control lock which would have relived any additional stress of throttle torque.

The smaller the engine, the more likely you will need the mod, but it worked fine for me on a big bike as well.

I would say give it a try; worst thing that happens is you have to pull it off again.

 

[Cipher]

Of course you could see a physiotherapist and they would give you a set of exercises to strengthen you and assist in any postural errors contributing to the pain.
My k1300 almost killed my wrists and in the end a pair of precurved gloves and exercise to strengthen the lower back as wella s shoulders and neck fixed things.
No bike mods at all crazy Huh!

 

[Dogma]

From personal experience with most of the units listed above:

The "throttle rocker", "cramp buster", whatever you want to call it is, in my opinion, JUNK. Yeah, it allows you to just rest your palm on the grip and relieve the grip a bit, but you have to have it positioned JUST right. If you happen to hit a bump (large rock, pothole, expansion joint), the extra leverage on the throttle will suddenly add throttle. If you have a more powerful large-bore bike, it can get interesting.
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Steve, you were doing it wrong. I've never had bump induced acceleration. When you use one of these, you only relax your grip a bit. You don't relax your wrist. Well, you do, apparently. I don't. Not for everybody. Locks aren't for me.

What's a good proper cruise control, other than Honda OEM? I didn't know you had so much experience with them.

 

[Steve]

The throttle lock is available in black or chrome. This one is obviously black. Mine is a mixture of both, will have to get a picture of it this evening when I get home.

OK, I have been home for a while and gotten a bunch of 'stuff' done, it's about time to get the picture posted. :-\\\

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[wymple]

I use a NEP cruise control (model CC-4 for single cable Suzuki) and have never had problems. A simple "U" shaped clip fits over the throttle cable where it exits the housing, to keep the unit from rotating around with the throttle.

The friction adjustment is set so that you can still twist the throttle open or closed even with the cruise control engaged, but the friction is enough to keep the throttle at a steady opening.

The only negative point is that the lever is right at the top, making it difficult to engage/release with right thumb. I just bring left hand over to engage/release, because you do not need to do it often on the open road, anyway.


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This is what I use, I couldn't remember the name of it. Works great and there is nothing remotely difficult about the adjustment. I have no problem setting it with my right thumb.

 

[81gs7501166]

Funny u would mention that, went yesterday ,I don't understand it,but most of my problem is from the nerve in my neck,[I folded a steering wheel inside out in a classic car with no shoulder strap,when some one texting ,ran me off the road and i nailed a tree about 45mph]. I've now got stretching exercises and a tennis elbow arm band around my forarm,it already seems to be helping,she also suggested a squeeze ball to exercise my grip,I'm going to try it?
Thanks

 

[81gs7501166]

I pulled up a carb schematic and c 3 springs, could I remove the center spring and only use 2?

 

[Steve]

Sorry, I'm not good with texting shortcuts, what three springs do you SEE?

There are no springs that can be safely removed to reduce the effort.

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[81gs7501166]

Actually 4 Springs!
I unhooked the one under the screwdriver, it made a slight Improvement!
Haven't rode yet, rain today in East Tn?

 

[Mosquito13]

Don't use the throttle lock much but for light traffic freeway. Cramp buster is nice though. .

 

[Steve]

Don't use the throttle lock much but for light traffic freeway. Cramp buster is nice though. .

I see you have the chrome version of the throttle lock. I mentioned that I had combined parts of two units for mine.
I used the chrome on the ends, but kept the black for the cross piece and the thumb lever.

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[81gs7501166]

Rode today,slight restiance improvement in pull, waiting on grips, fatter in center for less
cramping? The cold,50 degree temp seems to hurt as much as anything,might have to try hand warmers?

 

[Cipher]

hand warmer are nasty. too hot in the palm too cold on the rest of hand.

 

[Steve]

I have never tried heated grips. Although the concept sounds good, I don't always have both of my hands wrapped around the grips.

I will often have one hand or the other off the grip, doing one thing or another, or just resting. For me, my heated GLOVES work just fine. :encouragement:

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