Running terrible after oil change. What?

[marcopasco39]

I recently acquired an 82 GS1100GL w/ 31k miles. It doesn't have any air filter on the carbs but I cleaned all of the carbs completely, set the screws, cleaned the tank, charged the battery. It started right up, ran very smooth with steady idle and I rode it around a little. I knew it had 20w-50 oil in it. So I drained the oil and put 3.6qrts of 10w-40 in. Now the motor makes a lot of noise, it idles sporadically and wants to die. Then the oil light comes on. All I did was drain the old oil and put 10w-40 in. Please help.

 

[kdo58]

it won't run right without air filters. It will run way lean.

 

[tom203]

No more running it till you figure out what you did or didn't do ! I'll assume that 3.6 qts of 10w-40 stayed in motor. Someone in this forum will point you in right direction soon enough, but don't run it if oil light is on. Did you replace oil filter?

 

[marcopasco39]

kdo58 - with all due respect i know that. tom - I did not change the filter, and yes the oil did remain in the case.

 

[kdo58]

I thought you said it does not have a air filter.

 

[kdo58]

with out air filters if it even runs, it would run like crap. Possibly be so lean as to put holes in the top of your pistons.

 

[marcopasco39]

I am not worried about my carbs right now kdo, I'm going to put filters on them. I'm more concerned about why my motor sounds like it has rocks in the head and my oil light came on when i changed my oil.

 

[blowerbike]

with out air filters if it even runs, it would run like crap. Possibly be so lean as to put holes in the top of your pistons.

no piston holes guys.
no way no how.
not good to run lean..yes.
will it damage/hole pistons...no.

 

[cowboyup3371]

I think what everyone is trying to tell you is get it running the optimum way - fresh and stock air filter, cleaned carbs, fresh oil, valve adjustment, new plugs - and then work from there.

Now with that said, I wonder if it could be a bad sensor?

 

[blowerbike]

I am not worried about my carbs right now kdo, I'm going to put filters on them. I'm more concerned about why my motor sounds like it has rocks in the head and my oil light came on when i changed my oil.

ok..
where did you drain the oil from and where did you pour in the new oil?
what your saying makes no sense.

 

[blowerbike]

if you over fill an engine with oil that can make the engine light act stupid.
if you drained the gear box oil instead of engine oil then this is what may be happening.

 

[marcopasco39]

I drained it from the 21mm drain bolt on the bottom and filled it at the cap behind the clutch.

 

[blowerbike]

I drained it from the 21mm drain bolt on the bottom and filled it at the cap behind the clutch.

how much oil came out?
the correct engine oil drain is about centered on the oil pan i believe.

 

[marcopasco39]

About 3.5-3.6 qts. I measured to be sure. My sidestand light also came on when my oil light came on.

 

[blowerbike]

those are all just idiot lights.
if you turn the key on without starting the bike you should see several lights on.
i also believe if the bike is running bad and ready to die then all those lights will flicker as the engine idles down really low(near stalling).
as far as your problem goes...i am stumped.

 

[GSXTommy]

Hi.

You say 10/40 oil ? isn`t that car oil ?
you say you also drained the oil from the nut on the oilpan, filled up to the cap. wel. the oil shall be half way on the oil glass/cap and not up to the edge to it.

it can also be the oil pump, the oil light tells you also that the engine got no oil pressure I belife.

the producers say that you must use the oil to the bike and never use oil that you by at you local store, I think the 10/40 oil are thicker than then oil that you shall use.

Maby Im wrong, just a suggestion.

 

[marcopasco39]

Well thanks for your help anyways. I think I'm going to do a valve adjustment, change the oil and filter again. And make sure the carbs are all squared away. I don't know what else to do.

 

[Guest]

I am not worried about my carbs right now kdo, I'm going to put filters on them. I'm more concerned about why my motor sounds like it has rocks in the head and my oil light came on when i changed my oil.

The PO may have used 20W-50 oil to mask some issues, and dampen some odd sounds that are more apparent with 10-40. I don't really see a reason to run 20W-50, at least in your location. Maybe drain the oil again and use 20W-50 to see if it sounds better, to confirm. I think the illuminated side-stand light may just be some issue with the switch...possibly got disturbed whilst doing the oil change.
I would deal with the ongoing issue first, before proceeding with valves etc.....if any additional symptoms come up, multiple inputs make trouble-shooting more difficult.

 

[cowboyup3371]

Hi.

You say 10/40 oil ? isn`t that car oil ?
you say you also drained the oil from the nut on the oilpan, filled up to the cap. wel. the oil shall be half way on the oil glass/cap and not up to the edge to it.
the producers say that you must use the oil to the bike and never use oil that you by at you local store, I think the 10/40 oil are thicker than then oil that you shall use.

Maby Im wrong, just a suggestion.

Actually my 81 550T requires use of 10w40 oil that I buy from the motorcycle shop. Others around here use the Rotella 15w40 like what you'd use in a diesel engine. Only thing to worry about is not using the 10w40 oil made for autos that you buy from Oreilly's or Autozone.

 

[Larry D]

I recently acquired an 82 GS1100GL w/ 31k miles. It doesn't have any air filter on the carbs but I cleaned all of the carbs completely, set the screws, cleaned the tank, charged the battery. It started right up, ran very smooth with steady idle and I rode it around a little. I knew it had 20w-50 oil in it. So I drained the oil and put 3.6qrts of 10w-40 in. Now the motor makes a lot of noise, it idles sporadically and wants to die. Then the oil light comes on. All I did was drain the old oil and put 10w-40 in. Please help.

With all things being right, the bike SHOULD have run like crap with no airbox on it. The fact that it ran very smooth with a steady idle is odd.

So, my question is, does it have the airboxes and all it's missing is the air filter -or- are you running it with the carbs just flapping in the breeze ? Also, how did you clean the carbs and set the screws ? Did you dissassemble them and dip or just spray some cleaner in there ? Which screws are you talking about ?

I'm thinking that it is now running poorly as it should have before you changed the oil and the oil change had nothing to do with it at all.