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whats the best way to remove rust from a tank and keep it from coming back??
i just put my 83' gs750es away for the winter(i live in canada, eh!) and noticed i've got the rusties in the tank. i heard that a product called
Kreem is pretty good......................
 
I was at cycle salvage last week and they said there is something newer and better thant he Kreem. This company actually makes a product that will strip the old Kreem from your tank if necessary.

Steve
 
SO whats the name of it? Kreem will do the job, just take your time and don"t try and rush it. Put a hand full of nuts and bolts into it to loosen rust (shake it real good)during 1th washing, etching. DO it outdoors, very nasty fuems.
 
Re: rust in tank

jonathan smith said:
whats the best way to remove rust from a tank and keep it from coming back??
i just put my 83' gs750es away for the winter(i live in canada, eh!) and noticed i've got the rusties in the tank. i heard that a product called
Kreem is pretty good......................
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Don't know where you are, but if it's cold enough to put away your bike already, then you cannot use Kreem. It needs warmth to work properly and you absolutely must NEVER use it indoors. The fumes do not just smell bad, they are quite toxic.

Take a look in the Yellow pages for radiator shops or even gas tank repair shops. I got mine done at Gas Tank Renu for CA$90., and they not only did a good job, they gave a written, two-year guarantee.
 
An old trick (depending on how bad your tank is corroded) is to empty the tank, remove from the bike, remove the sender, and fill with about a pound of screws, nuts and bolts. Fill er up, and shape like hell, Remove the stuff and flush with gas. Do a few times and then flush one last time with a gas and oil mixture. Then reinstall and add an inline fuel filter.
GY
 
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argonsagas said:
Don't know where you are, but if it's cold enough to put away your bike already, then you cannot use Kreem. It needs warmth to work properly and you absolutely must NEVER use it indoors. The fumes do not just smell bad, they are quite toxic.

Take a look in the Yellow pages for radiator shops or even gas tank repair shops. I got mine done at Gas Tank Renu for CA$90., and they not only did a good job, they gave a written, two-year guarantee.
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Hi Ron,
Is there any risk to the finish of the tank when they remove the rust.
Roman
 
Have you thought about replacing the tank? My gs650g's tank was totally rusted out. I went to T.O. cycle salvage in toronto and picked a brand new looking tank for $150! it only had a slight dent that you had to look for. It even had the suzuki parts sticker on it!
 
Use the Kreem. It's great.

Use the Kreem. It's great.

you don't have to use any nuts and bots. Maybe a chain like from a pulley. It will come out in one piece. you'll have to position the tank in different positions to get all the sides. after you get the tank etched with the full strength acid top it off for a final etching. The most important thing is to rinse out all the rust. Rinse and agitate the hell out of it. Dont bother with the tank mask it will just rinse off. Flood it out generously and use a sponge on a stick with a sponge to get out the water. The acid can be disposed down the drain if you dilute it ten to one first. Use a hair dryer with a cold air setting to vent the tank and get the Kreem to set up.
 
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Roman said:
argonsagas said:
Don't know where you are, but if it's cold enough to put away your bike already, then you cannot use Kreem. It needs warmth to work properly and you absolutely must NEVER use it indoors. The fumes do not just smell bad, they are quite toxic.

Take a look in the Yellow pages for radiator shops or even gas tank repair shops. I got mine done at Gas Tank Renu for CA$90., and they not only did a good job, they gave a written, two-year guarantee.
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Hi Ron,
Is there any risk to the finish of the tank when they remove the rust.
Roman
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Roman:

They told me paint would be fine, but I cannot say from experience, as my tank was bad when I got the bike. I had a lot of bumping to do, using a steel bar inside the tank while I hammered the outside, so I wanted the body work done first. My tank was completely stripped, body work completed, and ready for paint before the interior rust removal and reline job was done.


Try calling them and discuss it directly....they are on Martin Grove just a bit north of Rexdale Blvd. They not only offered a decent price, and the best guarantee, but they are very friendly folks, both on the phone and in person.

As mentioned....you cannot safely do the work in the house, and the weather has to be warm to do it outside. The chemicals are not a bit friendly to you or the environment.

Kreem would be cheaper, if it works the first time, but there are some things I just don't want to do, and some things I believe truly are best done by professionals. For me, this job fits both categories, and for an extra $45. the job was done and guaranteed, so it was an easy decision.
 
Ron,
Money well spent.
I'll give them a try when the season is definitely over.

Thanks,

Roman.
 
Re: Use the Kreem. It's great.

Re: Use the Kreem. It's great.

chrisdnoel said:
you don't have to use any nuts and bots. Maybe a chain like from a pulley. It will come out in one piece. you'll have to position the tank in different positions to get all the sides. after you get the tank etched with the full strength acid top it off for a final etching. The most important thing is to rinse out all the rust. Rinse and agitate the hell out of it. Dont bother with the tank mask it will just rinse off. Flood it out generously and use a sponge on a stick with a sponge to get out the water. The acid can be disposed down the drain if you dilute it ten to one first. Use a hair dryer with a cold air setting to vent the tank and get the Kreem to set up.
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Hey that is a good idea, even a length of medium heavy gate chain or something like that would dislodge the corrosion so it could be washed away! GOod thinking!
GY
 
rust

rust

i ended up taking the tank to a local rad shop and they did an excellent job.........
i like the chain idea, though........now........do you take the chain back out before going out for a ride???? or is it one of those self cleaning ideas?????
 
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jonathan smith said:
i ended up taking the tank to a local rad shop and they did an excellent job.........
i like the chain idea, though........now........do you take the chain back out before going out for a ride???? or is it one of those self cleaning ideas?????
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Boy 8O do you belong to this group or what?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I have used kreem twice with excellent success. A friend used Kreem last month and we still don't know what went wrong but it blew up in his face. Tank is ruined, hair is burn't off, face is real sunburned. I wish I knew what he did wrong because I will probably need to use it again someday and now I'm kinda nervous. Anybody have an opinion as to what could have gone wrong. Fire department claims a static spark from wool lining in jacket caused it????
 
arveejay said:
I have used kreem twice with excellent success. A friend used Kreem last month and we still don't know what went wrong but it blew up in his face. Tank is ruined, hair is burn't off, face is real sunburned. I wish I knew what he did wrong because I will probably need to use it again someday and now I'm kinda nervous. Anybody have an opinion as to what could have gone wrong. Fire department claims a static spark from wool lining in jacket caused it????
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Ouch!!!!!
 
Por 15 product

Por 15 product

I did a tank off of a Kawasaki and found a product that I believe works better than kreem. POR 15 makes a good little kit, it comes with a degreaser, a solvent to eat away the old tank sealing, a rust eater, and a tank sealant. The only thing I found it needed was maybe some acetone. After you eat the rust off you must rinse with water and then dry. I found this stage to cause a lot of flash rust. If you rinse with acetone, the acetone will evaporate and the surface will be ready to be sealed.
 
Yikes!!!!!!!

Yikes!!!!!!!

I had really good luck when I did mine. I don't know what could have coused it to explode. Someone claimed earlier to have had his tank done for $90.00. This sounds like a worth while investment to me. If I knew before I did mine that I could get it done that cheap I would have went for it.
 
arveejay said:
I have used kreem twice with excellent success. A friend used Kreem last month and we still don't know what went wrong but it blew up in his face. Tank is ruined, hair is burn't off, face is real sunburned. I wish I knew what he did wrong because I will probably need to use it again someday and now I'm kinda nervous. Anybody have an opinion as to what could have gone wrong. Fire department claims a static spark from wool lining in jacket caused it????
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I don't know the chemical makeup of Kreem, but in using a vriety of products for stripping paints, I have seen that a common byproduct is a form of hydrogen gas, and that is always very highly flammable....any spark will set it off.

The chemicals in Kreem, or any similar product, are invariably non-compatible with human skin.

As you will see in my earlier post.....Kreem should only be used outside. This is because you need maximum ventilation because of the noxiousness and toxicity of the fumes, but now, apparently, there is a third reason.

I have not used this product, I just took the warnings from a dealer who was selling it.....he told me to find a professional shop to do the work as I would be both safer and happier.

Why not look around for a professional to do your work, and avoid the hazards you now know far too well?
 
Dont Know About Kreem But

Dont Know About Kreem But

A BUDDY OF MINE USES A PACKAGE OF BB'S AND SHAKE LIKE HELL THEN RINSE AND DO IT AGAIN, NUTS BOLTS SOUND TO BIG TO ME TO GET INTO TIGHT AREAS BUT BB'S WILL GET EVERYWHERE, HE HAD GOOD RESULTS. WHEN DONE USE MULTIPLE FUEL FILTERS AND CHANGE EVER SO OFTEN FOR FIRST YEAR THIS IS BY FAR THE CHEAPEST METHOD I KNOW OF AND WORKS WELL...
 
I've never used this stuff, but found a web page that sounds pretty good for the rust removal. If anyone else has tried this please let me know what your results were. I'm thinking of getting some to do the tank on my bike before I paint it. http://dratv.com/rustol.html
 
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