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Shaft or Chain... that's the question...

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I never clean the chain on a road trip. It simply isn't necessary every time you lube. The process is simple - tilt the bike on it's side stand and have someone rotate the rear tire as you spray the chain - go get breakfast and ride.

I've removed the centerstand on all my bikes, so hence the sidestand trick. With a centerstand you can do it solo. So simple even a caveman can do it.
 
reddirtrider said:
I never clean the chain on a road trip. It simply isn't necessary every time you lube. The process is simple - tilt the bike on it's side stand and have someone rotate the rear tire as you spray the chain - go get breakfast and ride.

I've removed the centerstand on all my bikes, so hence the sidestand trick. With a centerstand you can do it solo. So simple even a caveman can do it.
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Really torn on pulling mine off, they weigh a ton.
 
Suzuki_Don said:
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

His centre stand.
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Hahahaha....
I tend to agree with you, it's SO nice to have, but when I picked it up (along with the frame from powder coater) I thought to myself, god this thing must weigh 10 or 12 pounds!
 
Steve said:
OK, since the thread has veered a bit into GoldWing territory, let me show you a GoldWing SPORT bike. :D

TurboWing.jpg


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Wow, this is some bad-ass conversion. Am I seeing this correct and the engine is a 6-cylinder? Or 4? I'm thinking 6, namely the 1500 cc.

That your bike Steve? How much did it cost to actually make this bike?
 
noobie said:
Wow, this is some bad-ass conversion. Am I seeing this correct and the engine is a 6-cylinder? Or 4? I'm thinking 6, namely the 1500 cc.

That your bike Steve? How much did it cost to actually make this bike?
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Thats a 1500 wing motor I do believe. Turbo charged. No, thats not Steves....but that IS my helmet...
 
doctorgonzo said:
Hahahaha....
I tend to agree with you, it's SO nice to have, but when I picked it up (along with the frame from powder coater) I thought to myself, god this thing must weigh 10 or 12 pounds!
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Man, was I off base. :lol: Somehow I was thinking you were taking the chain off to clean it. I don't do that either, just do it on the bike and then clean the entire bike after.

Anyway, centerstands don't work with the exhausts I like, so off they come. There are obviously some who swear by, and will never remove their center stands, but I get by just fine without one. When the bike needs work it's in the shop (garage) and I could care less if it has a stand, and if it's just oiling the chain I use the sidestand. Give it a try - tilt the bike on it and the rear wheel will leave the pavement - that's all you need other than another set of hands to rotate the tire and apply the lube of your choice.
 
TheCafeKid said:
Thats a 1500 wing motor I do believe. Turbo charged. No, thats not Steves....but that IS my helmet...
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Why would anyone need a TURBO on top of that engine!? :confused: It's already powerful enough. Saw a Goldwing beat a CBR in a race from green light to red light even though it's twice as heavy. Imagine what it must be capable off with only half it's weight, turned into a sports bike.... No need for a turbo there.
 
noobie said:
Why would anyone need a TURBO on top of that engine!? :confused: It's already powerful enough. Saw a Goldwing beat a CBR in a race from green light to red light even though it's twice as heavy. Imagine what it must be capable off with only half it's weight, turned into a sports bike.... No need for a turbo there.
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Why a turbo? Why NOT a turbo? :D
Actually the 1500 engine in the picture only puts out about 100 hp in stock form. Couple that with a bike that is just over 800 pounds (the one in the picture might be down to 600 or so), and you have a very low power-to-weight ratio. Imagine if your GS1000 only made about 60 hp. :mad: That would be about the same power-to-weight ratio. Not much fun in that for sporting use.

The Goldwing you saw in the race with the CBR must have been one of the latest series, the GL1800. They have about 120 hp and weigh a little less than the GL1500, so they are considerably quicker. Not sport-bike quick, though, so a lot of that is up to the rider.

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reddirtrider said:
Man, was I off base. :lol: Somehow I was thinking you were taking the chain off to clean it. I don't do that either, just do it on the bike and then clean the entire bike after.

Anyway, centerstands don't work with the exhausts I like, so off they come. There are obviously some who swear by, and will never remove their center stands, but I get by just fine without one. When the bike needs work it's in the shop (garage) and I could care less if it has a stand, and if it's just oiling the chain I use the sidestand. Give it a try - tilt the bike on it and the rear wheel will leave the pavement - that's all you need other than another set of hands to rotate the tire and apply the lube of your choice.
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Sometimes they will. Not all exhaust brands. I have the V&H street megaphone, and no need to remove centerstand.

What makes me think about it is the CRAZY handling improvement from losing the stock exhaust (made of lead) for the much lighter 4 to1. My thinking being wow losing that 20 lbs made an awfully big difference, wonder what losing 10 more would do. If I did it I'd buy a garage stand.
 
Steve said:
Why a turbo? Why NOT a turbo? :D
Actually the 1500 engine in the picture only puts out about 100 hp in stock form. Couple that with a bike that is just over 800 pounds (the one in the picture might be down to 600 or so), and you have a very low power-to-weight ratio. Imagine if your GS1000 only made about 60 hp. :mad: That would be about the same power-to-weight ratio. Not much fun in that for sporting use.

The Goldwing you saw in the race with the CBR must have been one of the latest series, the GL1800. They have about 120 hp and weigh a little less than the GL1500, so they are considerably quicker. Not sport-bike quick, though, so a lot of that is up to the rider.

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It's not about the horse power man, it's about the torque. Horse power isn't the deciding factor in acceleration, Nm are. And a 1500 cc machine has got to have lots of it. And 1500's are sparky as they are which means the engines have a lot of torque, to shed 200 kilos of weight would make them into rockets.
 
It doesnt matter to me chain or shaft, but evidently this lady preferred Chris Farley's Shaft.

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TheCafeKid said:
Fat guy in a little cooooaaat....
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One of the best movies ever. =)



I know where you live and I've seen where you sleep. I swear to everything holy that your mothers will cry when they see what I've done to you!
 
jknappsax said:
I had a real bug to buy a 1000G, then I rode with a guy who had one, tricked out as I would have (Dyna S and coils, Progressive fork springs, IKONs, K&N pods, V&H header), and he was riding in front of me on a spirited group ride. I was riding my 1978 GS 750, and I would constantly catch up to him in the curves, and have to carefully brake to avoid rear-ending him. I'd go into the twisties following at a reasonable distance, and catch up to him every time. He seemed like a good rider, so I'm attributing it to the shaft; I've never experienced this with any other GS 1000s. Now I have a 1979 GS 1000.
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It may be true that it was the rider, rather than the 1000G, that was slower in the curves, all I know is that it was no fun catching up to him mid-curve! In an acceleration contest, I'm sure that the 1000G would be much faster, but this was all about MAINTAINING speed through curves, not drag-racing.
 
jknappsax said:
It may be true that it was the rider, rather than the 1000G, that was slower in the curves, all I know is that it was no fun catching up to him mid-curve! In an acceleration contest, I'm sure that the 1000G would be much faster, but this was all about MAINTAINING speed through curves, not drag-racing.
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Well that's any big bike, not just a G. That's why Care Racers are 500s, 750's etc, not 1000s or 1100s. Not gonna throw a bike that size around as easily as a smaller bike. Bike bikes = straight line speed.
 
Reviving a not-so-old thread:
Chains are for men! Shafts should be reserved for (not men), (no sexism here, please, just motorcycle facts)
And as I cleaned, lubed, and quieted my chain this weekend, she told me that I would enjoy thousands of powerful, pain-free miles ahead. When did you get that from your shaft? (This is a light-hearted question, at best, and should be treated as such.)
 
What's a chain? And furthermore why were you playing with it George? ( Note that I would NEVER ask why You were playing with your Shaft):twistedevil::lol:
 
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