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Signal and gauge rewire

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I have my signals working great but i can't seem to get the neutral indicator to work. how did you hook yours up mister cinders? Do i need to run a hot to one of the other gear sensors to complete the circuit?
 
I'm bookmarking this thread, I know I'm gonna come across this issue when I get to wiring my Acewell...
 
I took a look at the wiring diagram, it looks like it's just hooked up to ground and power is coming from the gear position lamp switch. You need to feed the switch power to complete the circuit... I think...

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The neutral light is the blue one.
 
yeah, that's the same thing i was thinking looking at the wiring diagram. the orange comes through and feeds the lamps and then goes straight through the indicator numbers down to the sensor and the neutral running independent. seem to me like the circle wasn't closed. make sense?
 
The neutral indicator in your new gauge set is probably "active hot", meaning that you need to add a "hot" wire to turn on the light, which is always grounded.

The stock neutral indicator is "active ground", meaning that you switch a ground wire to turn on a light that is always connected to a "hot" wire.

You could use a relay to provide the switching, if you want. Let me know if you are interested, I can get a drawing for you.

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That makes total sense, Steve. I knew the bike was an active ground but didn't think the new gauge would be flip-flopped. I'm interested in that relay drawing, that would probably be the easiest answer. Can you post it here for others to find?
 
I would be interesting in seeing that too. Btw Chucksuki, what gauge are you using?
 
Same ones as mister cinder except with the black face. They look awesome.
 
i'll post a picture later, i gotta go to the gym to teach boxing class and train jiujitsu.....guess i gotta take a break from the bike
 
OK, guys, here ya go. :D

Find the blue wire that goes from the original gauge cluster down to the selector switch near the left footpeg. There will be a couple of connectors in the line, if you can take one of them apart, it will make it easier to install the relay AND will be reversible, if ever needed/desired. Connect the blue wires as shown in the diagram below, it does not really matter which one goes to #85 or #86. Find a wire that is switched with the ignition key. You could also use a wire that is "hot" all the time, but you at least want to have it fused. A 1-amp fuse would be overkill, anything larger would be ridiculous. Connect the "hot" wire to #30. Run a wire from #87 to the neutral input wire on your new gauge panel.

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Because I'm ignorant, what is that relay called so that I can grab one at radioshack or advanceauto tomorrow.
 
Click HERE to see the part with part number on the Advance site.

You will likely find it in the auxiliary lighting section.

You might also find similar relays wearing the Pilot or Blazer brand names. No problem, they will work, too.

This is the same basic relay that can be used for many things, including the infamous "coil relay mod", horns, lights, whatever.

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i had a volvo and a saab back in the day that both loved to eat relays. these are what I thought of, would not have thought of using it this way. i haven't had any issues electrically. First thing i did was install the rr from electrosport and replaced every 30yr old bullet connectors with water resistant blade connectors a year ago. Time consuming, but worth it. Never had to do any of the horn relays or anything cuz everything has run awesomely. Also put in the electrosport stator about 6 months ago and my lights are super bright. I'm hoping this round of improvements could get even the gnarliest "L" hater to say it's an o.k. suzuki.
 
I just got this sucker wired up, i have the ground from the neutral light (Green and Black) going to the Blue wire for the neutral which goes into 85, 86 is the blue wire for the switch. 87 goes to the hot wire for the neutral(green) and 30 I piggy backed the Orange and Green hot wire headed into the indicator control. No worky:mad:, I switched around the hot and ground to the neutral light and still No worky:mad: You guys got any ideas. I tried turning the blinkers on to see if patching into their hot would have done something silly but the neutral light didn't blink either.
 
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