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solenoid clicking, starter not turning over.

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Hey guys, my bike was starting and running fine, then one day the solenoid just started clicking. Kept checking connections and wires, and found nothing so far. Then the wire from the neg terminal to the bike ground melted. I replaced it with a thicker wire and checked all the other wires. No more were melted. It still only clicks. Jumped the posts on the solenoid and it sparks, doesn't turn over. Jump directly to the starter post and it immediately turns over. Kinda going nuts here, help appreciated.
 
OK. Time for a game of "20 Questions". :-k

I'll ask the first two.

1. What bike are we talking about? No, it probably does not matter for this particular discussion, but get used to being asked this, until you remember to mention it every time or create a signature that mentions it for you.

2. What is the battery voltage?

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its a 1980 gs450, and the battery voltage is good, battery is brand new, just put it in yesterday.
 
3. What is the battery voltage when you turn the key ON and let it set for about 30 seconds?

4. What is the battery voltage when you push the starter button?

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"Jumped the posts on the solenoid and it sparks, doesn't turn over. Jump directly to the starter post and it immediately turns over. "

I vote for new solenoid...


 
@steve, will check and report back. At tom, thats what i thought, but she still clicks when i hit the start button.
 
im also considering just getting a new wiring harness, i found a new old stock one for a reasonable price, just dont wanna have to drop cash if thats not the issue.
 
Solenoid clicks, so not a problem with wiring harness.

answer Steve’s question 3 and 4.
 
tom203 said:
"Jumped the posts on the solenoid and it sparks, doesn't turn over. Jump directly to the starter post and it immediately turns over. "

I vote for new solenoid...
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If you jump straight across the solenoid between the 2 large posts you have taken the solenoid out of the equation. If it cranks like that OK then I agree, solenoid. Real cheap on ebay.
 
Even cheaper at your local auto parts or home improvement store. :-k

Many of the solenoids for lawn tractors bolt right in. :encouragement:

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Ok, noticed I had some corrosion on the tip of my voltmeter, cleaned it off and battery came in at 13.1 after 30 seconds, and 13 while holding the start switch.
 
Make sure the solenoid is well grounded. Also, check the ground from the starter (through the starter mounting bolts, case, and back to battery).
 
Kellencmiller said:
Ok, noticed I had some corrosion on the tip of my voltmeter, cleaned it off and battery came in at 13.1 after 30 seconds, and 13 while holding the start switch.
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5. What kind of battery are you using? A fully-charged wet-cell lead acid battery shows 12.6 volts. A fully charged AGM battery (that is a construction type, not a brand name) shows 12.8 volts. I am not familiar with any battery that shows 13.1 volts after 30 seconds.

6. Does your bike require pulling the clutch to engage the starter? There should be more than a tenth of a volt drop when pushing the button.

7. Have you ever checked your meter for accuracy? Ignore the bike for a moment. Take your meter to your car, open the hood, check the voltage on the battery. If it is very much over 12.8, you need a new meter.

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the battery is a new agm, and no, the bike has never required me to pull the cluth to start before.
 
8. Have you tried checking the voltage on your car battery?

9. Going back to your original post, you said "the wire from the neg terminal to the bike ground melted". The wire from the negative terminal of WHAT? I am thinking that you might have mis-identified a wire.

Need to re-visit #5, along with #3. A fully-charged AGM battery shows 12.8 volts, but will show a lot more right after it is removed from a charger. It is quite possible that the voltage will be 13.1 or so, right after removing the charger. You need to apply a load for a short time to remove the "surface charge". That is why the request to check voltage again after 30 seconds. Even better would be to remove the charger, turn the bike ON for about 30-60 seconds, then turn it OFF and let it sit for several hours and check the voltage. Check it before turning the bike ON and again after about 30 seconds.

10. What happens (if anything) when you push the starter?
a) nothing.
b) solenoid clicks, but starter does not turn.
c) starter turns, but engine will not fire.

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