• Required reading for all forum users!!!

    Welcome!
    Register to access the full functionality of the GSResources forum. Until you register and activate your account you will not have full forum access, nor will you be able to post or reply to messages.

    A note to new registrants...
    All new forum registrations must be activated via email before you have full access to the forum.

    A Special Note about Email accounts!
    DO NOT SIGN UP USING hotmail, outlook, gmx, sbcglobal, att, bellsouth or email.com. They delete our forum signup emails.

    A note to old forum members...
    I receive numerous requests from people who can no longer log in because their accounts were deleted. As mentioned in the forum FAQ, user accounts are deleted if you haven't logged in for the past 6 months. If you can't log in, then create a new forum account. If you don't get an error message, then check your email account for an activation message. If you get a message stating that the email address is already in use, then your account still exists so follow the instructions in the forum FAQ for resetting your password.

    Have you forgotten your password or have a new email address? Then read the forum FAQ for details on how to reset it.

    Any email requests for "can't log in anymore" problems or "lost my password" problems will be deleted. Read the forum FAQ and follow the instructions there - that's what we have one for...

  • Returning Visitors

    If you are a returning visitor who never received your confirmation email, then odds are your email provider is blockinig emails from our server. The only thing that can be done to get around this is you will have to try creating another forum account using an email address from another domain.

    If you are a returning visitor to the forum and can't log in using your old forum name and password but used to be able to then chances are your account is deleted. Purges of the databases are done regularly. You will have to create a new forum account and you should be all set.

Temp variation in cylinder...Use temp for rough fuel jet setting? I'm lost.

  • Thread starter Thread starter windjammer47
  • Start date Start date
W

windjammer47

Guest
Hello all, I've been doing a restoration of a 79' GS550e. Work completed thus far...Body Engine de-greased and detailed, Body dents pulled, Air Filter replaced, Air box sealed, Air box boots deplasticized, valves shimmed, new tires and tubes, all carburetors dipped and rebuilt with all new o-rings and gaskets, tank evaporusted, fuel cock rebuilt and tested, Ignition system replaced, intake boots replaced with new vitron rings, magnetic ignition contacts installed, plugs replaced, clutch cable and clutch mechanism replaced, fuses and grounds checked and replaced...now for the final carburetor tuning. My question has to do with the individual cylinder temperature. According to my clymer manual and Bikecliff's page, The fuel pilot should be between 3/4 to 1 1/2 turns out after bottoming the screw. When rebuilding the carburetors the PO's didn't keep track of the factory fuel jet settings but I followed the instructions per many mechanics before me put forth. My bike feels weak and seems to be missing out especially at low speed and idle. It lacks power. Cylinder one gets to 210F, Cylinder two gets to only 158F, Cylinder three gets to 330F, and cylinder four gets to 190F at standard running temps after a quick twenty minute ride. Using the fuel pilot screws, I've brought down the temp on cylinder three to 280F but I'm way beyond the factory/forum recommended fuel pilot screw settings at 2 1/2 turns out. (My air pilot screw is set at the standard 2 turns out on all carbs after gentle bottoming out)

My question: Is it wise to use the fuel pilot screws to try to tame the possibly lean/rich fuel mixtures to even out temperatures? I've tried vacuum syncing the carburetors but the pilot air screw didn't seem to change the reading. My cylinder 1 & 2 exhaust smell rich, whereas my cylinder 3 & 4 does not. Plug readings have told my nothing BTW. The bike runs too rough to get a standard reading. Am I barking up the wrong tree?

Also there is the dreaded ghost idle issue but that comes after step one of getting it running fair. :(

Any help would be appriciated!
 
Yes, you are

1. You don't sync the carbs with the mixture screws. The adjustment screws are on top, under the top cap
2. Fuel screws shouldn't be more than 1 turn out. If it's still lean, go up a step on the pilot jet
3. I'm guessing #3 is hot because you didn't cap the vacuum port?
4. Plug reading will always tell you what your issue is

If by "ghost idle" you mean the idle is increasing, it's telling you there's a air leak.
Also, while temperature is only a guideline, that guideline is saying your carbs are still not clean
 
I capped the vacuum port between the 1&2 and the 3&4 carbs. I used the old caps as they wern't dry rotted and seemed to fit tight. I'm pulling the carbs again to swap with a new set I've found online that haven't been messed around with. The mixture pilots and needle seem new and I suspect they are the chinese garbage parts. I have a junk yard set in the mail that I'm just going to clean up. Thank you for your help. Back to the factory settings once the new parts come in...

Big T said:
Yes, you are

1. You don't sync the carbs with the mixture screws. The adjustment screws are on top, under the top cap
2. Fuel screws shouldn't be more than 1 turn out. If it's still lean, go up a step on the pilot jet
3. I'm guessing #3 is hot because you didn't cap the vacuum port?
4. Plug reading will always tell you what your issue is

If by "ghost idle" you mean the idle is increasing, it's telling you there's a air leak.
Also, while temperature is only a guideline, that guideline is saying your carbs are still not clean
Click to expand...
 
Okay, the ports between 1&2 and 3&4 are vents and should be open
The one you need to cap is on the inside of #3

If that's not capped, or connected to the fuel tap, there's your leak
 
Ah, same page, but different book. Those vents...sorry. Yes both on the outside of the carb are drain hosed to the ground. The #3 is attached to the pet cock. The two I was speaking of were the flow through tubes between the carbs. They are two, 1/2" pieces of hose between 1&2 and 3&4

Big T said:
Okay, the ports between 1&2 and 3&4 are vents and should be open
The one you need to cap is on the inside of #3

If that's not capped, or connected to the fuel tap, there's your leak
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top