The END is near (California guys)

[Nessism]

Tell me rocket scientist .... Now just why do you think the California government passed that law ?

Well, your condescending reference, calling me a "rocket scientist", is indicative of your inability to be civil to people that don't share your point of view. You are the sarcasm master. Continually calling me "Joe", in an attempt to veil the insult, in your mind anyway. Honestly Garth, you are better than that, or at least I'd like to think so.

You are smart enough to know, or at least I'd like to think, that California's government is filled with well intended, but really dumb, politicians that take pride at "setting the tone" for others to follow. Thing is, in instances like this, there is no science behind their laws. China emits about 2.6x more CO2 than the US. They have 1160 coal burning power plants, compared to the US with about 220. It's outright stupid, dumb, short-sighted, to think that California, by banning gas lawn equipment, will have any impact on worldwide CO2 levels, yet they did it.

 

[bccap]

Thing is, in instances like this, there is no science behind their laws. China emits about 2.6x more CO2 than the US. They have 1160 coal burning power plants, compared to the US with about 220. It's outright stupid, dumb, short-sighted, to think that California, by banning gas lawn equipment, will have any impact on worldwide CO2 levels, yet they did it.

I see your point ..... Two wrongs make a right ......{ and also just admitted why this thread has no business in the Campfire }

 

[Nessism]

I see your point ..... Two wrongs make a right ......{ and also just admitted why this thread has no business in the Campfire }

Wrong again. This thread is about me buying a gas lawn mower, before it's too late. You are the one that turned that into a political statement. If you want to press me about why CA made such a law, then yes, the answer is political. But that was not my intention with the thread. You pushed the thread that way.

 

[bccap]

Wrong again. This thread is about me buying a gas lawn mower, before it's too late. You are the one that turned that into a political statement. If you want to press me about why CA made such a law, then yes, the answer is political. But that was not my intention with the thread. You pushed the thread that way.

Your logic is the same logic gun nuts have. Every time there is a school shooting they run to the store and stock up in case the government wakes up and says " Hey ! These things are dangerous " ..... Which is exactly what you did and you showed in further posts it didn't stop with a lawn mower .... Don move this over to the Vortex where it belongs ......

 

[Nessism]

Your logic is the same logic gun nuts have. Every time there is a school shooting they run to the store and stock up in case the government wakes up and says " Hey ! These things are dangerous " ..... Which is exactly what you did and you showed in further posts it didn't stop with a lawn mower .... Don move this over to the Vortex where it belongs ......

The Vortex is where you should go. NOW. Leave this thread and stop posting. You are the reason it's gone off the rails. If you can't see that, you are hopeless.

 

[bccap]

Let me see now .... The title of the thread is " The end is near " because of a California law ..... And then you go on to tell us all the ways you are stocking up before it comes into effect ..... if you can't identify politics when you are doing it yourself ..... Then you are hopeless ......

 

[trevor]

The title of this thread alone, makes it vortex material. Give me a break.

 

[Baatfam]

I will say this. We bought our electric mower 8 years ago, and it was one of the best buys I ever made.
The thing is just a good as my old gas mower. Doesn't need a carb clean, new plug, oil change, or air filter...ever.
Don't have to go buy gas.
And it's quiet.

I have no understanding of the reasoning behind not wanting one.
Pretty stupid discussion, if you ask me.

 

[Nessism]

I will say this. We bought our electric mower 8 years ago, and it was one of the best buys I ever made.
The thing is just a good as my old gas mower. Doesn't need a carb clean, new plug, oil change, or air filter...ever.
Don't have to go buy gas.
And it's quiet.

I have no understanding of the reasoning behind not wanting one.
Pretty stupid discussion, if you ask me.

Having choices in life is good. We can select products based on our sensibilities.

Regarding ICE vs. battery, the 2025 projection is for 75% of all vehicles sold in the US to be ICE. EV projected at 10%, hybrid at 15%. People have the option of going EV, but clearly, most people don't want them. Same for me with an electric lawn mower. My past experience with electric tools is fine, but there are always battery problems down the line. So, my choice is to stay ICE. You are free to choose otherwise.

 

[trevor]

I will say this. We bought our electric mower 8 years ago, and it was one of the best buys I ever made.
The thing is just a good as my old gas mower. Doesn't need a carb clean, new plug, oil change, or air filter...ever.
Don't have to go buy gas.
And it's quiet.

I have no understanding of the reasoning behind not wanting one.
Pretty stupid discussion, if you ask me.

With ethanol in all gas now, I'm now putting fuel stabilizer in my jerry cans for my lawnmower and power washer....electric makes good sense.

 

[bccap]

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[Sandy]

I will say this. We bought our electric mower 8 years ago, and it was one of the best buys I ever made.
The thing is just a good as my old gas mower. Doesn't need a carb clean, new plug, oil change, or air filter...ever.
Don't have to go buy gas.
And it's quiet.

I have no understanding of the reasoning behind not wanting one.
Pretty stupid discussion, if you ask me.

Now that we don't have an acreage to maintain if our 25 year old mower ever dies it will be replaced with electric, same with our trimmer and as for the chain saw (sold the big one and just have the smaller one now) we've hardly used it since we moved 7 years ago but I do purge the gas and run it once year. Unfortunately the damn mower just keeps running though .....some things I wish would just quit. LOL.

 

[pdqford]

I will say this. We bought our electric mower 8 years ago, and it was one of the best buys I ever made.
The thing is just a good as my old gas mower. Doesn't need a carb clean, new plug, oil change, or air filter...ever.
Don't have to go buy gas.rolleyes:

At my age I was finding it difficult to pull the rope fast enough to get my gas mower going.
Bought a battery powered mower a few years ago. Discovered all the points you mentioned above.

And I can add two more advantages: It always starts.
And it is supposed to run for 50 minutes, but I can only last 45 minutes when I NEED to take a break!

 

[oldGSfan]

At my age I was finding it difficult to pull the rope fast enough to get my gas mower going.
Bought a battery powered mower a few years ago. Discovered all the points you mentioned above.

And I can add two more advantages: It always starts.
And it is supposed to run for 50 minutes, but I can only last 45 minutes when I NEED to take a break!

An electric drill can start an ICE pretty easily. So much torque. Some Norton guys spend huge $ on converting to an electric start as they are old duffers and knees are fragile. I think hmm, drill a hole in the primary cover, throw a Makita in a backpack or whatever (rack, bungee like the old days), and drill, baby drill! You all must be crazy to put your faith in knees. That's why I love mankind.

 

[Rob S.]

An electric drill can start an ICE pretty easily. So much torque. Some Norton guys spend huge $ on converting to an electric start as they are old duffers and knees are fragile. I think hmm, drill a hole in the primary cover, throw a Makita in a backpack or whatever (rack, bungee like the old days), and drill, baby drill! You all must be crazy to put your faith in knees. That's why I love mankind.

Have you ever shown us a "start up procedure" video of the Norton? As much as I was too insecure to show up on anything less than my 11E (Sportster sometimes, 903 Z1 in the '80's), I'd be confident enough on that Norton to roll up on any group of Harleys or Jap super bikes.

 

[Nessism]

Have you ever shown us a "start up procedure" video of the Norton? As much as I was too insecure to show up on anything less than my 11E (Sportster sometimes, 903 Z1 in the '80's), I'd be confident enough on that Norton to roll up on any group of Harleys or Jap super bikes.

With my gimpy knees, I'm afraid to kick over any old bike to life. It sucks getting old. If a remote motor works, I'm all for it!

 

[oldGSfan]

Have you ever shown us a "start up procedure" video of the Norton? As much as I was too insecure to show up on anything less than my 11E (Sportster sometimes, 903 Z1 in the '80's), I'd be confident enough on that Norton to roll up on any group of Harleys or Jap super bikes.

No, I took a video of my son starting it a while back, he got it going after 3 or so but has improved. I won't embarrass him by posting it. Still not as good as me but I've got 70 more lbs and 40 more years of experience. When hot it's one kick, no throttle every time. When the engine's cold but it's warm out, I kick it once with the key off and the Mikuni enrichening lever down (on), then key on, the enrichening lever in off position (up) and it starts most of the time on that 2nd kick. Yesterday I took compression readings, Got 169 left and 158 right. Good for a 7.5:1 dished piston. Right now I'm waiting for a new throttle cable, a place makes them custom for Brit bike Mikuni conversions for $22. Has the correct ends for the Mikuni VM and Amal throttle. Mine was frayed and the revs hung on me the other day, not good.

 

[Griffin]

Nothing has changed. I've been gone for the most part for eight years, checked in a little bit during Covid and saw the same thing as four years before.

Same stink from the same sources, wafting down from the northwest.

 

[trevor]

Nothing has changed. I've been gone for the most part for eight years, checked in a little bit during Covid and saw the same thing as four years before.

Same stink from the same sources, wafting down from the northwest.

Man those 8 years flew by....

 

[Griffin]

Sure did. I married a daughter off, became a gandfather twice, and almost died twice in a two week period. One of those incidents resulted in a clinically-dead NDE (Near Death Experience).

And managed to accumulate three more bikes in the proccess.

Now if time would slow down so I could get them all restored to where I want them to be...