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TheCafeKid

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Negative blue ostrich. The original bolts had small heads. They didn't even come close to touching the intake boots. If anything the new bolts I bought are larger than the originals and they still don't touch. Well except for one
 
ok now im totally confused...Each of my boots has two bolts...the bolts actually go thru the boot and bolt into the manifold itself. the boot is sealed to the head by our friendly Intake orings we've come to know and love (*cough*hate*cough*) How are yours different?
 
AHHHH. THAT"S WHY NO ONE ELSE COMPLAINS!!!!! Dude my **** is completely different. I'll show you right now hold on
 
ehh...what happened?? Im still waiting...i wont wait forever...well..yeah i prolly will. But im still waiting! LOL
 
Sorry GF problems. And plus i had to draw them out.

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Sorry bout the wait. But now to clarify. That's basically what I'm dealing with. The manifold is very short. We're talking about shorter than half an inch. And the rubber boot doesn't do anything but sit on it.
 
Hrmm that has to be some sort of adapter they used to get them to accept the BS32s after they went away from the mechanicals. What holds THAT boot on?
 
Ok see i think something is awry here. First the manifold ISNT the metal thing that the rubber attaches to. That SHOULD be permenantly attached to the rubber. The manifold is what THAT all attaches to. On mine, the metal ears and plate are molded into the rubber. Then that attaches with the bolts to the head/manifold. the intake rings go on the back of the metal flange into a groove machined into it. The carbs push into the rubber boots. voila! Yours...i dunno wtf is going on there. WTF hold the rubber to the flange??
 
NOTHING lol. Nothing holds it on. Basically you slip them on, and then they kinda just stay there. What really holds them on is that the airbox and carbs are pushed up against them. Its a very tight fit to get everything on. Which is why i originally wanted to go with pods. But yeah the airbox and carbs pushing against them is what keeps them from falling off.

And yeah I know that your's are molded together. That the realization i came to earlier about why no one else complains
 
Well something isnt right there man...cos if NOTHING is pushing that rubber tight, its gonna leak like a sonofab!tch..
 
Wow that has me thrown for a loop seriously. What an oddball.. I figured all of the 8 valvers had the same boot set up. Now i wonder if thats exactly how the 16 valver is set up, cos that's kinda what those boots look like. Just rubber sleaves.
 
Honestly the thing that holds it on there so tight is the force of the airbox pushing against it. its a VERY tight fit
 
No. The only o ring is on the carb end of the rubber boot. It seals up the boot onto the carb
 
Wow...im now completely curious to the point that i am probably going to end up at first light in that shed pulling one of those boots off...lol I gotta see whats up. Did you by chance read that thread on the 650 on a 550 block thread?? i think in there they mentioned something about the 550 boots being goofy too..
 
Well...i guess that would work...as long as the fuel is going in to the head without any excess air. I just dont see how that rubber sleave doesnt suck air around that metal flange. And WTF if you wanna put pods on it? You're screwed! The carbs wont fit tight without the airbox? Im needless to say confuzzled. Ive seen some strange set ups...but generally they are all about the same. Even those stinkin hondas i had were more or less the same set up.
 
Yeah I read through that 650 thread and saw that. And its true it does puzzle most. They can't understand HOW that came to be. And its a head scratcher. Because the boots are stamped Suzuki. So they came like that from the factory

As for putting pods on thats a bit confusing also. But that's why Tone said to support the carbs with something. Dude that guy knows his stuff
 
Yeah he does...So far i havent run into anything that he hasnt already answered yet..but i have the feeling im going to soon with this bore project. I was poking around and i think ill prolly end up sinking another 600 bucks into it and get a set of Mikuni RS34 flatsides for it. It will be one bad ass cafe motor when im done i think. Might be too much for this bike, in which case, ill be looking for a different roller to build up. lol
 
Dude check out ebay for flatsides. I found a 34mm pair the other day that went for 150 bucks. And they looked friggen badass!

I think I may just contact Nessism and ask him about those boots. I think I'm gonna try to get a set where they're molded together. Because its a serious b!tch to get them on when the only thing that keeps them on is the airbox pushin everything up agaisnt them. I almost had a heart attack trying to keep them in place while trying to get the carbs on. Its pretty tough seeing as there are four to worry about
 
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