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Top End Oiler. Yet another thread

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Hey guys, I don't mean to beat a dead horse because I know there are a lot of TEO threads out there...but...I was in the market for a new TEO and since Greg B's project seemed to come to a standstill I found one on Ebay made by a guy in Canada that brands it as KBR Racing. I ordered it and it looks great!! Really nice design and craftsmanship but very different than what I was running before. My original TEO was designed to force ALL the oil through the TEO and into the exhaust rocker shaft. From there the oil back-flowed down the cylinder block and into the oil gallery to lube the crank and tranny. I've only ever seen this on some old school drag bike photos. Below are some images and info from this project (Sorry, I have to do this in multiple posts because there are a few images)

Here's a pic of what I had been running since I bought the bike about 8 years ago. It was installed by the previous owner
 
Here's a look at the underside of the oiler block. This block extends down to seal against the oil passage forcing all the oil into the braided lines running to the exhaust rocker shafts.

Note: crappy gasket sealer mess was done by PO.
 
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Here's an underside view of the new oiler block. It accepts both the pressure and temperature sensors.
 
How is the transmission and intake rockers going to get oil flow? Something doesn't seem right.
 
And here are a couple of old school drag bike images using my previous setup
 
Nessism said:
How is the transmission and intake rockers going to get oil flow? Something doesn't seem right.
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I'm pretty sure the oil backflows down the cylinder block on the exhaust side and back up the cylinder block on the intake side in order to feed oil to the intake rocker shaft. The oil also backflows through the oiler block housing to feed the transmission. I don't know how else it could work...Doesn't seem like a very good design and that's why I went with the new one. But I'm still not sure why some guys used to run their drag bikes this way?...
 
Also, if anyone has a temperature sensor laying around, I'm in the market for one. My gauge works so I'd like it to be functional and am willing to pay a fair price for a used sensor. Though I am trying to avoid dropping the $100 that Suzuki wants for a new one :confused:
 
Thanks for the post.

I was finally ready to pull the trigger on one and now there ate no more listings.

I'll see if I can contact them directly.

Nic
 
Davel, that first one you have pictured is the original Vance & Hines oiler. They only oiled the exhaust cam then because of heat & used the oil to cool the springs along with oiling the cam & rockers. Ray.
 
I got the same one in black for the '83. He makes about 5 or so at a time. I went through several eBay iterations before I got mine. He's on the West coast - isn't he?
 
rapidray said:
Davel, that first one you have pictured is the original Vance & Hines oiler. They only oiled the exhaust cam then because of heat & used the oil to cool the springs along with oiling the cam & rockers. Ray.
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Thanks Ray, I thought you might have some input on this. I can see where the V&H Oiler directs the maximum amount to fresh oil to the hottest part of the engine (exhaust cams, rockers & springs) but it seems like other areas like intake cams, crank and tranny might get compromised.
 
I suspect that Vance and Hines setup would most likely be fine for drag racing, but I wouldn't use it on a street bike.

For your new setup, did you block off the original oil port into the cylinder? Not sure if this is necessary or not. Just asking the question.
 
Nessism said:
For your new setup, did you block off the original oil port into the cylinder? Not sure if this is necessary or not. Just asking the question.
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I did consider blocking it but ended up leaving it alone. So the way it is now, oil enters the rocker shafts from the cylinder and TEO.
 
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