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Trans popping out of 2nd under power - OK to finish season?

Baatfam

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OK...well the trans in the 1100E is popping out of 2nd under full power...near redline.

So this means motor out, split cases, repair trans....

Now the first question is, will I do any additional harm if I ride it until the end of the season?
Let's assume I try not to gun it in 2nd....:-\\\

Second question...will I need any new parts?
Or can the dogs be reground??
Or, most likely, I won't know until it is apart, correct?


BTW....this was most embarrassing when it happened yesterday as I passed a pack of slow ridding Harleys on one of the only twisty roads around here....
71 between Ottawa and Starved Rock...
I'm sure they laughed their azzez off when they got to the bar...:p
 
Baatfam said:
OK...well the trans in the 1100E is popping out of 2nd under full power...near redline.

So this means motor out, split cases, repair trans....

Now the first question is, will I do any additional harm if I ride it until the end of the season?
Let's assume I try not to gun it in 2nd....:-\\\

Second question...will I need any new parts?
Or can the dogs be reground??
Or, most likely, I won't know until it is apart, correct?


BTW....this was most embarrassing when it happened yesterday as I passed a pack of slow ridding Harleys on one of the only twisty roads around here....
71 between Ottawa and Starved Rock...
I'm sure they laughed their azzez off when they got to the bar...:p
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Im no expert, but i would think the only possible harm might come from some shavings, but if you are gentle on it in 2nd, i dont see what could really hurt it? Other than popping out and over-revving, but if you're taking it easy on it, *I* would say you should be fine for the rest of the season. But thats just my opinion. Likely, the dogs have gotten this way over time, not just in the last few months or days since you've been riding yanno?
 
TheCafeKid said:
Likely, the dogs have gotten this way over time, not just in the last few months or days since you've been riding yanno?
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Agreed...
I really haven't put many miles on this bike since I got it running and have really only started pushing it hard recently.
The first few times it happened, I just thought I hadn't fully engaged the gear...
But yesterday, I went out and confirmed it on some quiet country roads...


I also confirmed that she runs pretty smooth at 7-8K in fifth gear...:D
(But Officer...the speedo only said 85mph):-$
 
I picked up (from ebay) a double backcut V&H tranny from a midget racer a while back for $150 as I had a similar slipped from 2nd occurance. It has some wear but generally looks very good. APE will back cut for both sides for $600 :eek:

The only occurance I had was sporting with Bill, and I may have not really been well into 2nd gear, and about 7K under hard accel it poped out. Normally it is a missed 1-2 shift for me unless I'm very deliberate.


Anyway, just a ebay tip.
 
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Chances are the dogs are just rounded over. I'd ride it. Just take a bit more time on the 1/2 up shift. I'm assuming that it doesn't pop out of gear on deceleration?
I back cut my gears and some times have trouble shifting at less than full race rpm. Back cutting helps lock the dogs together so they don't slip and the transmission needs to be unloaded to get it to shift. Something to keep in mind
 
ride it.
if you ever need any tranny parts..
i have 8-10 complete sets(both shafts)for 1100/1150 16v.
and my name is NOT Ray..hahaha:lol:
 
My 1100LT had this problem in 3rd gear some 7 or 8 years ago - I rode it for about a year as it got progressively worse. When I did split the cases, I ended up using parts from a GS850 transmission I had laying around - has been great since.
 
Little late to the party but my SA machineist buddy Dave said he could up and down cuts on trans dogs for around $200. Just throwing that out there. He was a bit baffled at the prices some of these guys were charging....
 
TheCafeKid said:
Little late to the party but my SA machineist buddy Dave said he could up and down cuts on trans dogs for around $200. Just throwing that out there. He was a bit baffled at the prices some of these guys were charging....
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can they cut a tranny that's already been rounded off?
 
TheCafeKid said:
Little late to the party but my SA machineist buddy Dave said he could up and down cuts on trans dogs for around $200. Just throwing that out there. He was a bit baffled at the prices some of these guys were charging....
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I completely blew the trans in my drag bike a few years ago and my guy replaced two gears, one shaft and recut the gears for a 1-2-3 auto, (which is much more work than cutting the dogs), for $200....
While I waited...and when he bought carry out lunch the shop, he bought my lunch also...
So yes, I think a lot of these prices are mildly inflated.:)

Eli69 said:
can they cut a tranny that's already been rounded off?
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Yes...
 
TheCafeKid said:
Little late to the party but my SA machineist buddy Dave said he could up and down cuts on trans dogs for around $200. Just throwing that out there. He was a bit baffled at the prices some of these guys were charging....
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Your buddy Dave is going to have some work coming to him then.. Thanks for the tip
 
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