That's what I like about this place- I learn more stuff! Absolutely, that would be much easier to see if those gears have bit something.
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bluedawgie
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Okay.....I went out into my "man cave" and played around some more.
I put about 12 oz. of tranny fluid into the secondary drive oil hole. Went back and rotated nut on the right side. No more binding, but.....it certainly is hard to turn. When I put it in neutral, a lot easier. I also did something else, and maybe I shouldn't have, but wanted to see what happens. I turned to nut couter clockwise and it seemed like it was easier to turn. Here's something else that's puzzling....I had my daughter pull in on the clutch while I rotated the nut clockwise. It got just a tad bit easier. I'm thinking I'm going to have to pull the engine and split the case for closer examination. But first, as suggested, I will disassemble the drive shaft and take apart the swing arm system, then attempt to pull the secondary drive gear. I will be downloading the pdf also. Looks like more fun ahead, and I may as well get it into my mind that my riding has been cut short for this season. I told my daughter as we were standing there staring at my bike....let this be a valuable lesson. Learn to do your PM's.
We both kinda got a little laugh when I was telling her about my Dad, her grandpa, in asking him if he remembers when he last checked the secondary gear drive oil...and he said...what's that? Never mind Dad, you just answered my question.
One other thing today after crying on my fellow biker's shoulders....there are two small bike shops within a few miles of me that I wasn't aware of at all. Guess when you get a bike, you become more aware of things like that when your conversation turns to bikes. 
I put about 12 oz. of tranny fluid into the secondary drive oil hole. Went back and rotated nut on the right side. No more binding, but.....it certainly is hard to turn. When I put it in neutral, a lot easier. I also did something else, and maybe I shouldn't have, but wanted to see what happens. I turned to nut couter clockwise and it seemed like it was easier to turn. Here's something else that's puzzling....I had my daughter pull in on the clutch while I rotated the nut clockwise. It got just a tad bit easier. I'm thinking I'm going to have to pull the engine and split the case for closer examination. But first, as suggested, I will disassemble the drive shaft and take apart the swing arm system, then attempt to pull the secondary drive gear. I will be downloading the pdf also. Looks like more fun ahead, and I may as well get it into my mind that my riding has been cut short for this season. I told my daughter as we were standing there staring at my bike....let this be a valuable lesson. Learn to do your PM's.
We both kinda got a little laugh when I was telling her about my Dad, her grandpa, in asking him if he remembers when he last checked the secondary gear drive oil...and he said...what's that? Never mind Dad, you just answered my question.
One other thing today after crying on my fellow biker's shoulders....there are two small bike shops within a few miles of me that I wasn't aware of at all. Guess when you get a bike, you become more aware of things like that when your conversation turns to bikes.
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bluedawgie
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I hope I'm not violating any forum rules on here, but I thought I'd post a pic of my bike....well, not MY bike, but one identical to mine...except mine needs a good paint job...(been scuffed up a bit) rechroming and some other touch-up jobs. This photo is really what I want my bike to look like when I'm done with it. It looks factory new.
http://suzuki-gs-bikes.smugmug.com/...GS1100GK/10603897_gKjEw#737246450_6WGan-XL-LB
http://suzuki-gs-bikes.smugmug.com/...GS1100GK/10603897_gKjEw#737246450_6WGan-XL-LB
Wow, you getting into this! I would advise against turning crank nut counterclockwise except a bit- cuz you pushing cam chain against adjuster and bad things could happen.When your daugher pulled in clutch,the tranny is basically seperated from engine, so it would be easier to turn. Before you pull swingarm , do what Rustybronco said- remove gear shift lever, cover and pull secondary gear housing to inspect the gears- you might see something obvious. Maybe you'll get lucky and one of Dad's gold bars will fall out!
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bluedawgie
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Well.....I really want to learn, Tom. I figure I can't learn if I let someone else do it. Okay, that'll be my next move. I'll remove the cover and the secondary gear. Thanks. Oh, I'll letcha know if Dad stashed any "gold" in there....lol.
Good, I'll pm you my phone number just in case He did. 
have you checked out this thread? http://thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=166583
have you checked out this thread? http://thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=166583
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watevs
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Hi all.
I just recently found the GS Resources website and I'm very glad I did.
I have an '88 GS850G.
The same happened to me last week as you Bluedawgie.
My rear wheel locked up whilst I was travelling at approx. 25mph. I had to drag it off the road by myself which was bloody tough to say the least!
I can still shift gears down, neutral and up, Motor turns over and starts as it should though the rear wheel is locked up.
I removed the clutch, no probs there. So I must be suffering the same problem as you Bluedawige. Which makes me ask the question, Is this a common fault with these bikes after 30 years??
Ill be following these posts and attempting it on my bike, though a few steps behind of course.
I just recently found the GS Resources website and I'm very glad I did.
I have an '88 GS850G.
The same happened to me last week as you Bluedawgie.
My rear wheel locked up whilst I was travelling at approx. 25mph. I had to drag it off the road by myself which was bloody tough to say the least!
I can still shift gears down, neutral and up, Motor turns over and starts as it should though the rear wheel is locked up.
I removed the clutch, no probs there. So I must be suffering the same problem as you Bluedawige. Which makes me ask the question, Is this a common fault with these bikes after 30 years??
Ill be following these posts and attempting it on my bike, though a few steps behind of course.
Welcome to the forum. This problem might be poor maintenance on this part of the drive. Maybe some folks haven't bothered to check/change oil in secondary gearbox; others have failed to keep the rear wheel hub/spline lubed.Hi all.
I just recently found the GS Resources website and I'm very glad I did.
I have an '88 GS850G.
The same happened to me last week as you Bluedawgie.
My rear wheel locked up whilst I was travelling at approx. 25mph. I had to drag it off the road by myself which was bloody tough to say the least!
I can still shift gears down, neutral and up, Motor turns over and starts as it should though the rear wheel is locked up.
I removed the clutch, no probs there. So I must be suffering the same problem as you Bluedawige. Which makes me ask the question, Is this a common fault with these bikes after 30 years??
Ill be following these posts and attempting it on my bike, though a few steps behind of course.
Tell us about your bike; mileage, how long you had it, etc
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watevs
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1988 GS850G,
Ive had the bike since May 2009.
Had about 25000 miles on the clock then, Now has 34000 on the clock.
I had to replace the speedo after a car driver knocked me off my bike in January 2010, hence to big rise in Milage!!
I had to replace the entire front end except the shocks. So have some experience on the front end and wiring as whoever owned the bike before me made a huge mess of the wiring!
Apart from that my knowledge is quite limited. Have read many books on motorcycle engines. But only so much you can learn from a book.
Learnt to ride on a GN250 back in the day
Like most folks I do oil changes etc myself to save money but apart from the main oil I have never checked or changed any other oil on the bike.
I was unaware!
Live and learn................
I have a manual somewhere, just moved house recently so not sure what box it is in!
Any suggections/tips will be greatly apporeciated.
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bluedawgie
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Hey Whatevs.....welcome to the GS forum. I'm finding a lotta great help here. Sounds like you may have had the same problem I have. I don't know how long I ran it like that....being that I trusted my mechanic to give me a full check on everything to make sure it was road worthy.
I'm not really sure what kind of damage has been done yet, as I'm working my way up from the final drive to the secondary gear. I've been working 12 hour days, some my time has been very limited as of yet. I can tell you where the oil fill and drain port is, if you want to check the oil. Jeff the bassist has some great photos on his site, that is really where I learned where the secondary gear fill/drain holes are.
I'm not really sure what kind of damage has been done yet, as I'm working my way up from the final drive to the secondary gear. I've been working 12 hour days, some my time has been very limited as of yet. I can tell you where the oil fill and drain port is, if you want to check the oil. Jeff the bassist has some great photos on his site, that is really where I learned where the secondary gear fill/drain holes are.
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bluedawgie
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Well, I'm still out here...lol. Haven't got the chance to do any more on my bike as of yet. I was looking on Craigslist for perhaps a "parts" bike, if I needed them. Man, about a half dozen on there for a fairly decent price.
Not going that route yet, but just looking to see what's out there.
Incidentally, that brings to mind a question. I think I know the answer, but maybe someone can shed some more authoritative light on this.
What's the big deal about matching numbers? Is this just for show/contest puposes. I mean, it seems kinda funny you might have matching numbers, but a lot of the internals could be swapped from different bikes.
Not going that route yet, but just looking to see what's out there.
Incidentally, that brings to mind a question. I think I know the answer, but maybe someone can shed some more authoritative light on this.
What's the big deal about matching numbers? Is this just for show/contest puposes. I mean, it seems kinda funny you might have matching numbers, but a lot of the internals could be swapped from different bikes.
