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Tremclad Paint Job Begins...

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mark M
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Mark M said:
Just a quick update. The white did indeed cure properly overnight and now has a hard shell finish with a very high gloss. I was worried last night because it stayed tacky for quite a while after painting, but a couple of PM's with Rudy suggested a fan to keep the air moving and assured me it would dry eventually.

So, the next step is wet sanding with 400 and another coat tonight, then wet sanding with 600, then hopefully the final coat.


Mark
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Glad to hear that it worked for you.
 
I would go for a few more coats. You have a very thin film of paint right now. If you get a stone chip you will definately go thru to the primer and maybe to the original finish. The extra coats give you more film thicknes which helps with durability as well as having more paint to allow for the final sanding and buffing.
 
jmanz6 said:
I would go for a few more coats. You have a very thin film of paint right now. If you get a stone chip you will definately go thru to the primer and maybe to the original finish. The extra coats give you more film thicknes which helps with durability as well as having more paint to allow for the final sanding and buffing.
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At least 2 more, if not 3 depending on how it looks.

Mark
 
High film build has less chip durability than a thin film; thicker is definetly not better. Not saying you shouldn't add more coats, just don't over do it.
 
Coat number 2 is on and looking much better than #1, as expected. I did a much better job flowing the paint on and eliminated almost all of the pebbling effect I was getting before. Now it looks like light orange peel instead of a rough surface. If I keep this up, coats #3 and #4 should be glass smooth. Reducing the white at 3:1 is near perfect for rolling.

I did oversand a bit on coat #1 and had a bit of the background showing through this coat still. I also cut through a couple of edges on the side panels and need to be more careful for the next couple of coats if I want the edges to have color left on them... I figure it will take another 2 coats to completely cover and give the white some depth. The gloss Tremclad is very glossy and should result in an extremely nice finish once rubbed out and buffed up.

And here we are:

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Any comments, etc. welcome.

Mark
 
What grit paper are you using? Use 800 or 1,000 wet & dry with water and a rubber sanding block. The paper glides on the water, cuts better, the block keeps the paper universally flat and distributes your hand pressure to avoid sand through. Keep at it, looks good so far.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Stiksave
 
stiksave said:
What grit paper are you using? Use 800 or 1,000 wet & dry with water and a rubber sanding block. The paper glides on the water, cuts better, the block keeps the paper universally flat and distributes your hand pressure to avoid sand through. Keep at it, looks good so far.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Stiksave
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Remember to add a few drops of liquid soap to the water, and keep the sandpaper wet by letting it soak in the water for 10 or 15 minutes before you start. Also, using a sprtizer bottle with the same water/soap and spritzing while you sand allows for better fluid control and less mess. I've found that the newer microfiber cloths do a hell of a job with this whole process to wipe away accumulated slurry, etc.
 
stiksave said:
What grit paper are you using? Use 800 or 1,000 wet & dry with water and a rubber sanding block. The paper glides on the water, cuts better, the block keeps the paper universally flat and distributes your hand pressure to avoid sand through. Keep at it, looks good so far.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Stiksave
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I used 400 on the primer and the first coat. I will be using 600 on the second coat, then 1000 on until the end. All sanding is done wet. I tried a block, but it was very difficult to get into the corners and contours on the side plates. If I had large open areas like a car body, it would be all block sanded.

Mark
 
Try those sponges from the dollar store that have a green Scotchpad glued to one side. They are rigid enough to wrap the paper around but flexible enough to follow contours.

If they get too wet they lose their rigidity but still work fairly well.

Give it a try.

cheers,
spyug.

PS I still think its a lot of work:eek: but an interesting exercise and tutorial for others. Thanks man.
 
spyug said:
PS I still think its a lot of work:eek: but an interesting exercise and tutorial for others. Thanks man.
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It is a lot of work. Having got this far, I have to say that spraying is way easier to do and get a decent finish. However, spraying entails having the equipment and space to do it. If that is not available, this seems like a reasonable alternative for very little investment.

Mark
 
Now we're getting somewhere! Coat #3 is on and looks WAY better than #2. Coverage is looking much better and is almost solid white with no blemishes showing through. One more coat and things should be looking very nice. I did have a couple of mistakes where I tried to touch up a small run on the fender and a small blemish on one of the side panels after the paint had started to flash off. I have now learned to leave it alone at that point, because the paint was too set to level off after I touched it with the roller and left behind some surface roughness... Ah well, nothing some sandpaper and paint won't fix.

All the pieces together:

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A close up of one side panel to show how much better the coverage is now and how even the color is:

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Mark
 
I have been doing my 79 GS100 in black with great results!!! I have to learn how to post pictures here!!!
 
Big T said:
Bump

Mark, how's the paint job progressing?
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Nothing for the last week and a half, I have been out of town for work and getting swamped with family and Christmas stuff. Maybe next week I will be able to get back to it. I figure I need one more coat on the side covers and 2 more on the fender. I planned for the winter, so I am still doing OK. After these are done, I will do the tail piece and then the tank last.

Mark
 
I am also doing the Tremclad paint job. I have my fourth coat on and everything looks good except for the most important part, the tank itself. I have quite a bit of orange peel. Now this means the paint was too thick, right? I have to sand with 800 grit yet but the tank looks rough.
Also, after my 6th and hopefully final coat, i use the 1500 grade, then a polish, then wax, Correct? Will the polish and buffing smooth out any minor orange peel?

Paul
 
nastyjones said:
I am also doing the Tremclad paint job. I have my fourth coat on and everything looks good except for the most important part, the tank itself. I have quite a bit of orange peel. Now this means the paint was too thick, right? I have to sand with 800 grit yet but the tank looks rough.
Also, after my 6th and hopefully final coat, i use the 1500 grade, then a polish, then wax, Correct? Will the polish and buffing smooth out any minor orange peel?

Paul
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Sorry to barge into this thread since it's not mine...but you need to sand in between each coat, or every other coat at least, if you want to paint to be smooth. Hit what you have with 600 used wet and watch the corners or you may cut though to the metal. After you smooth out the paint apply more layers until you get the coverage and depth of color you are looking for.

Good luck.
 
nastyjones said:
I am also doing the Tremclad paint job. I have my fourth coat on and everything looks good except for the most important part, the tank itself.
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I found I had less orange peel with a fully wet coat. Trying to be too light on the paint caused me more problems. But I am no pro at this, so I may be wrong there.

You should post some pics of your progress, since mine has stalled out until next week.

Mark
 
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