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V&H Billet Clutch Basket Question

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Hi!

I have located, in my neck of the woods, an old V&H billet clutch basket that needs the backer plate with the gears and also the springs.

I have been told that APE, Falicon, etc. sell kits with these parts that can be pressed together.

Is this something that can be done at home without special tools or must it be done by a machine shop, etc?

What kind of $$$ are we looking at here for this kit?

Following are a few pics of that basket:

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Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks! :)
 
kochic said:
Nice find Normand:),
if you ever change your mind just drop me a PM,
Have a good evening,
Marc
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Hi Marc,

I'm happy about the find, but hope I can find the required parts to complete it.

Looks like we'll be able to ride on a regular basis soon. It's getting nicer outside.

Normand
 
Looks like it didn't finish the mfg process Your looking probably $200 in parts
plus you need someone to do the welding
 
SqDancerLynn1 said:
Looks like it didn't finish the mfg process Your looking probably $200 in parts
plus you need someone to do the welding
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Sorry! I forgot to mentioned that the PO removed the springs and back plate to repair another one. Thus the reason for missing parts.

I didn't know that these billet baskets needed to be welded. I was under the impression that they were press fit (and that on the other hand, OEM clutches must have the back plate welded when installing the new HD back plate) ... but I'm probably out in left field because I have never seen nor done one of these.

Thanks!
 
I would send that hub & a stock one to John Pearson or talk to Kim Barringer at Carolina Cycle to have it built. Ray.
 
thats a well used basket.
you may be better off to find a used complete assy.
if a shop has to supply a gear and a new backing plate kit plus labor...
your looking at 300.00-400.00 give or take USD.
these are clamped and welded in a fixture..
not pressed together by the way.
 
If you decide you don't want to mess with it, let me know how much you'll take for it! Ray.
 
Super simple to assemble, press, and weldthe 3 pins geico easy --- caveman

if you pay someone more than 30 bucks to get it done you got had.

GS zone and the kit is just a few bucks... but if the basket is bare--you will need a couple pieces that are in a stock basket that will not come with the kit.
 
rapidray said:
I would send that hub & a stock one to John Pearson or talk to Kim Barringer at Carolina Cycle to have it built. Ray.
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What would they do Ray? Would they use the gear from my stock basket, and add a HD back plate along with HD springs?
Thanks!
Normand
 
quexpress said:
What would they do Ray? Would they use the gear from my stock basket, and add a HD back plate along with HD springs?
Thanks!
Normand
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I'm not Ray (obviously), but yes, that is what they would do.
 
Nessism said:
I'm not Ray (obviously), but yes, that is what they would do.
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Would they keep the OEM backing plate along with the gear and simply "sandwich" it between the HD backing plate and the billet basket?

In other words, in this pic of an APE Gorilla clutch hub assembly, is the OEM backing plate hidden under that new HD backing plate, or has it been "machined" out before adding in the heavy duty springs and the rivets?

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Thanks!
 
No. The new backing plate is THICKER which is most of the benefit of doing the mod. If you just weld up the rivets on a stock backing plate it defeats the purpose as the springs will beat their way out of the stock backing plate. Ray.
 
rapidray said:
No. The new backing plate is THICKER which is most of the benefit of doing the mod. If you just weld up the rivets on a stock backing plate it defeats the purpose as the springs will beat their way out of the stock backing plate. Ray.
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What do they do with the stock backing plate (remove it, or leave it under the new HD plate)?
Thanks!
 
posplayr said:
makes a nice ash tray :-\\\
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I don't care what they do with the OEM basket LOL!

I'm just trying to understand if the new HD backing plate is installing directly onto the V&H billet basket or over the existing backing plate; and also how is the new gear ring attached to it.

Thanks!
 
You can't have two backing plates installed at the same time. The old one is removed and replaced along with the springs. New rivets are used and the assembly is then welded together.

Honestly now, if your bike is stock that basket will provide no benefit. A HD spring and back plate kit provide the benefit of eliminating excess play in the springs which is common, thus creating a rattle noise, but the basket itself, nothing. The HD back plate and that billet hub are basically for racer guys that beat on their bikes and overload the stock parts.
 
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side load side load side load.
one power shift from 1st to 2nd can blow a basket.
an H/D backing plate kit is not just for racing or racers:rolleyes:
 
blowerbike said:
side load side load side load.
one power shift from 1st to 2nd can blow a basket.
an H/D backing plate kit is not just for racing or racers:rolleyes:
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You're splitting hairs here.:rolleyes: Guys power shifting their 100+ hp motorcycles basically "are" racers, whether on a track or street.
 
Excuse my ignorance here, but I'm curious how the basket is constructed and how the power is transferred... If the gear on the back is riveted onto the basket, where do the springs come into play if the power is transmitted through the rivets? or are the holes the rivets go through slotted to allow the basket to rotate and then the springs take up the load and cushion the power as it's transmitted from the crank to the trans?
 
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