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valve shim results on my GS1000E

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Cylinder 1 INCylinder 1 ExCylinder 2 Incylinder 2 ExCylinder 3 INCylinder 3 EXCylinder 4 Incylinder 4 EXtolerance 1 Mintolerance 2 maxShim installed0.2750.2770.2750.2770.270.2830.2650.2840.0030.01Clearance0.00150.00150.00150.00150.00150.00150.00150.002calculate Min0.2720.2740.2720.2740.2670.280.2620.281Calculate Max0.2650.2670.2650.2670.260.2730.2550.274new shim0.270.2720.270.2720.2650.2770.260.277555556570.270.270.2750.287784
 
bummer that did not even come close to working let me redo that as a screen shot dang

:D the best new tool was the tyrap shim tool as suggested works Great!
have a new shim tool did not use it save 15 bucks and invest in 11" black tyraps for 2 bucks you get at least 10 tools

my engine is tight the only one i could measure was # 4 it was 0.0020 every thing else was tight on my 0.0015 feeler gauge

the shim range all over 265 - 283
redoing my chart
 
You're killing me with those "screen shots"...



Order shims from Z1 Enterprises. Get enough smaller shims for your next couple valve adjustments. BTW, when you can't get a measurement there is a good chance you have to jump two sizes.
 
just could not get the screen shoot to post correctly thank you for the Correct view deleted the others :>)
 
me bad keep forgetting have a photobucket account
do you think my choosen shims are a good value or should i get closer to 6- smaller then the min which is 3-5 and the max being 10 as suggested?
 
thanks, that a nice and clean readible manual :D

followed basscliffs tutorial plus used the Tyrap tool which is awsome
my shims are just too tight expalins why my compression is low 90-100

looks like i can reuse some of the existing, too bad the only shims i have are installed on the engine so have to wait and repeat this next weekend
 
I do not know this for a fact, but I've read where you can substitute "quarters" in place of the valve shims, or those yellow "dollar" coins.
This, if it works would give you the chance to move around those existing shims to determine exactly how many and what thickness shims you need.
 
Waiting for the shims,:>) better safe than rework my mistakes
Just remember it was not the DI who promised you the Rose garden
 
Did i mention the people and help on this site are awsome:D
Final clearance
1 in 1ex 2 in 2 ex 3 in 3 Ex 4 in 4 ex
.076 .063 .063 .063 .076 .063 .063 .038
2.70 2.79 2.70 2.77 2.65 2.77 2.65 2.83

#4 exhausts going to order a 2.8 now the tightest clearance
Notes
? Remove and separate all feeler gauges they tend to stick together. Easier to use one at a time then fanning them out.
? Apply oil to the feeler gauges goes a long way to accurate reading.
? Use a very bright lamp had a headband light worked great super bright Leds. also find a very long small needle nose pliers
? Best new time saving trick, Use the zip tie trick and save 15 bucks for 2 bucks you can get 10 tools to adjust your shims
? The zip tie method works 10 times Bette then the shim tool takes about 5 minutes to make the tool adjust and learn.
? Bookmark the Basscliff website site and spend time reading, such a wealth of information
? Love this GS resources website
 
I contest your adding oil to the feeler guage..oil actually takes up space and makes the feeler guages THICKER than what they are made to be. Use dry feelers and set the gaps.

Only oil you should needs is already on the shims and the lobes.

Should be using and recording info from METRIC feelers as well.
 
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I'm surprised more people don't try just swapping shims at the dealer. My dealer had no problem with it. It's not like there's a huge market for them. I just hit 'em with the swap as I'm picking up or placing a large order.
 
Maybe its the "as I am placing an order " part that gets you thru. Have you tired just a straight sawp and not be buying anything???
 
Idk. I realize most dealers aren't gonna do it, but it's worth a shot. Asking at the service counter might pan out better, because the mechanic is the guy that's gonna have the used shims laying around. If I asked and they said no, I would certainly shop around. My local Suzuki/Honda dealer is really small and locally owned. Same owner for decades.
 
Back on 6/10, I sent you a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet. Have you entered your clearances and shims into it yet?
That would have prevented the question in the first place, but your original post was a day before you got your spreadsheet. :o

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Yes love the calculator much better than the one I tossed together.
The sizes are metric may have inadvertently put the ?if so sorry was copying it in word to paste not having very good luck with the attachments here.

Good idea, didn?t think to hit up the dealer
Putting engine oil on the shims let them glide under the lobes just a real thin coating to make them slick.

Up to that point, think they may have been too dry as the feelers would not go under, maybe why my original readings where off so much again this is just what I found to worked for me

Attached Steve?s calculator Printout in PDF hope it works
 
My only question, is this: if this is your FIRST valve adjustment, how did you get "Previous Clearance" values?
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That line is blanked out on the first page, and is only available starting on the second page, after you have entered your values on the first page. :-k

I have been thinking that the included instructions were rather clear, evidently I am going to have to go back and re-think them. :oops:

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have to agree it?s hard to put 1st clearance values seems to be that some cells are blocked from writing and the math rounds up sorry this is long

Rotated the cam into position indicated by Basscliff pdf then attempted to measure the values they were so tight the first shims .0015 would barley fit under one was .002 (example see chart)
Remove wrote down the shim sizes at each location then measure them with a caliper

Being the 1st time was subject to a huge deviation as mentioned below the clearance was tight which bugged me when the new shims arrived had more time to evaluate the ranges swapped out the 1st shims with the values calculated on my own excel measurement sheet think I sent you a copy that was the 1st chart here.

After I received the Steve version (love it a hundred times better) :>)
Plugged in the 1st set of numbers something did not sync? Had written down the inch size Corrected when I had the Steve version was how I found the error.

Went back and removed all the shims one at a time again and separated feeler gauges into 10 then tried again to measure had a hard time as before applied a little oil and got the real numbers and rechecked the numbers apparently Dry lobes are harder to measure.

Which then became the Steve 1st set of clearance values and the shims as noted correctly this time for example the shim said 2.8 (but really was 2.77)

When the z 1st shims arrived measured them and placed into position
which became the new values Steve 1st adjustment once I had those values finished the 1st initial valve shim (rough adjustment) 2nd time determined the # 4 was still tight compared to the others completed the 2nd set (Final) have to go again and recheck started the bike to reseat the shims and will do another shim feeler check as some sounded loose someone said you may have to do this 3 times I see why
 
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