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Valves n Shims...

Took a ride, 15 minutes or so to warm up the bike brought it home to run the compression check. Pulled all wires, bumped the starter. #1 @115 #2 and #3 @90,#4 at 105...
 
If all checks out and compression is fine, would I still want to do the shims? I'm thinking yes....
Good thinking. :clap: :clap:

By the time the compression goes down, it's too late, the damage is already done. May as well adjust the valves and prevent the damage.


Pulled all wires, bumped the starter. #1 @115 #2 and #3 @90,#4 at 105...
Not all that bad, did you have the throttle held open?

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I didn't do it when it was running, I pulled all the wires and bumped the starter till the guage maxes out. I predict I did it wrong.. ;)
 
It's this guy around here with no name. I think he's some kind of GS wizard or something. ;)




Thanks Eric. Somehow I managed to keep oil away. The bucket tool never slipped. :cool:


Ghost, I found the valve check/adjust to be simple and even somewhat enjoyable. :-$ The worst part was cleaning the friggin' gasket surfaces.


I agree Eric, I rather enjoy that as well. I've helped several folks do their valves over the years. These days I don't ride enough to need to check mine often, so helping someone else helps me stay up on the process. Ray
 
I didn't do it when it was running, I pulled all the wires and bumped the starter till the guage maxes out. I predict I did it wrong.. ;)

If you don't keep the throttle open when checking compression, you will likely see lower numbers . You may be in good condition ring and piston wise with the numbers you saw, with a closed throttle. Ray
 
NO!! No need to have it running, just hold the throttle open while you are cranking it.

If the throttle is closed, the cylinders can't draw in enough air to compress, giving false low readings.

Just leave the wires off, leave ALL the plugs out, hold the throttle wide open, press the starter button and watch the gauge.

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Let us know what you find out mvalenti. Sounds like you'll be in good shape if you hold the throttle open while checking. Certainly adjust your valves next. Re-check the compression if you're curious.

I checked my compression the other day. I started at low rpm, low speed in 2nd gear. Then twist the throttle. I determined that this aspect was good because the torque pulled the bike nicely, then at about 5k rpm the engine went bonkers and ripped toward redline. No weak feeling the whole way through the revs. I suppose the sweet, deceiving acceleration from good torque is more pronounced with the larger cc engines. Not fair. :(
Just kidding, the 550 is a blast. :D

No seriously, how is the torque pull out of the 850+ cc engines?
 
Can't wait to get it to that point. Especially since I shaved close to 200 lbs off the bike with some redesign and stripping off all of the nonessentials.

-mark
 
Thanks tkent02. The torque pull is fun but 8000 rpm is where the real enjoyment is. :D


Mvalenti, 200 lb diet? Dang, so you can pick it up with one hand and move it around like a bicycle now, right? :p
 
Some of the shaved bits are, vetter fairing and bracketry, gs shocks, smaller tank, minimal seat, crash bars, aluminum clip ons in place of steel bars just to name a few.
 
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These were taken warm and with throttle open. Also, my valve cover gasket came in. Question, what harm is there in measuring the shims, putting the valve cover back on and riding a bit till my shims come in?? Do I need to put gasket cement on the new gasket? If the shims are way off I'd wait to ride...

slightly better tonight...
#1 110psi, 2&3 95psi, #4 115psi
 
The compression numbers seem low to me but I don't know what they are for your 850G. It's 128-185 for me. I got 110 cold or so on all 4.

In my opinion:

1) Don't ride if your clearances are so tight that no feeler gauge fits and the shim bucket won't turn. That is, won't turn when cam is in proper position for clearance check.
2) If the above doesn't apply but there are tight clearances I still wouldn't ride since your wait is likely less than 2 weeks. On the other hand, what would 2 more weeks hurt?

What are your compression specs? Check them after your adjustment. Then ride it and see how the bike feels. If it doesn't feel tired and has good torque push don't worry yet.
 
Thanks Eric, yea the nice weather is back. It's hard not to ride. Wish the gasket came a couple weeks ago when it was pouring out.
 
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