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What Brand Clutch Springs? and a question

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1983 Suzuki GS750E

at high rpm i get a little slippy. so its time to replace.
my question, what brand? and are there different strengths?
I ride a lot so im not looking for something that's gonna kill my hand to pull.


and the question..
When down shifting esp. into 2nd gear, the bike will occasionally kick out of gear or it will shift back into 3rd. will the springs help this? or something else needing fixed?
 
Are you sure the clutch is adjusted properly? And if so I went with OEM but I'm not hard on equipment and they have been in there for about 20k with no problems and no slippy either.

I don't think the springs have anything to do with the shifting problem rather rounded togs on the gear would be my guess.

Good luck :confused:
 
When I changed the clutch on my '90 Kat I installed EBC springs. They are stiffer than the OEM ones and feel kind of snappy, by that I mean they reduce slipping in the last bit of clutch release. The clutch lever is harder to pull and hold. When I change the oil next I will go back to OEM springs.

When the clutch is not in the springs are mostly extended. Because of this I expect their life is very long. The manual should have a relaxed length.

I changed my clutch and springs as a long shot fix for shifting problem. It didn't really fix the problem.

Thus I recommend you remove the clutch cover and inspect the parts before you buy anything.

One more thought. I have floated the clutch on my GS850G. I was shifting from 1st to 2nd at about 10-15mph. The RPMs were around 5k and I released the clutch quickly. The clutch slipped, until speed picked up and I dropped the RPM. I usually match the RPM to the speed and open the throttle after the clutch has been released. If you usually drive slipping the clutch to increase acceleration then you might want stiff springs.
 
Im Faster said:
at high rpm i get a little slippy. so its time to replace.
my question, what brand?
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You only need 3 of the EBC springs, you put an EBC in every other spring with the 3 stock springs. This will still make an easy lever pull but enough spring to stop the slippage. I can send you some of mine. Call me at 714--356-7845. Ray.
 
The clutch in question only uses four springs, unlike most other GS clutches. The springs are a tight fit into the stock space on the hub. I bought a 750ES and when taking the clutch apart noticed the basket was all chewed up because the spring was rubbing the various parts and fretting them away. OEM springs are highly recommended unless the engine is heavily modded.
 
op needs to worry about his trans...
time for a back cut of the dogs and slots.
with his trans popping out of gear i would say his fibers are charred and hard which means he needs new fibers and factory springs or a half set of HD springs to fix the slippage.
pretty simple...
 
even if it only pops out when downshifting and only in 2nd gear?
 
I will be doing a clutch job as well this winter, I am getting slippage in most gears if I crack the throttle and want to get going...

I will probably do OEM springs and new fiber plates....

Hopefully I will find no other surprises.....good luck on your clutch rebuild...

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BTW, what kind of oil are ya runnin? new oils and synthetics can make a clutch slip.. most of uss run rotella made for diesel engines....
 
mvalenti said:
BTW, what kind of oil are ya runnin? new oils and synthetics can make a clutch slip.. most of uss run rotella made for diesel engines....
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Sorry, but synthetics do NOT make the clutch slip. :p

I also run Rotella in all my bikes, but I use the synthetic in the blue jug.
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I put Barnett springs in my '78 GS750 Clutch engages positively at high rpms now, but it does give the lever a heavier feel. In fact I had trouble keeping clutch cables in one piece on it. Finally got my friend to make one with a thicker diameter. Just my two cents.
 
Steve said:
Sorry, but synthetics do NOT make the clutch slip. :p

I also run Rotella in all my bikes, but I use the synthetic in the blue jug.
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My mistake. What is it in certain oils that tends to allow the clutch to slip where other "more dinosaur-like" oils dont? Detergents?
 
Oils labeled as "energy conserving" have additives which are reputed to make (weak) clutches slip. These oils are typically of the thinner viscosity than our bikes use though. Reading over at Bob Is The Oil Guy forum, there are several guys with Goldwings and similar using energy conserving oil in their rigs without concern. Maybe those bikes have a stout clutch, not sure. At any rate, claims of synthetic oil causing clutches to slip are greatly exaggerated.
 
Nessism said:
Oils labeled as "energy conserving" have additives which are reputed to make (weak) clutches slip. These oils are typically of the thinner viscosity than our bikes use though. Reading over at Bob Is The Oil Guy forum, there are several guys with Goldwings and similar using energy conserving oil in their rigs without concern. Maybe those bikes have a stout clutch, not sure. At any rate, claims of synthetic oil causing clutches to slip are greatly exaggerated.
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Do Gold Wings have wet clutches?
 
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