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Where in Ontario VHT 127 Paint ???

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I was on Phone for 4 5 hours tried can tire napa speed shops no luck any one know where i casn buy a couple cans vht 127 sparay apint for my GS engine? Thanx Mike
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Same problem in BC. I tried Napa, Lordco, Canadian Tire with no luck. I did find some VHT aluminum caliper paint at Canadian Tire though. Colour and finish looks real close to stock. Hope it lasts OK. Who knows, might even be the same stuff with a different label.

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Don't let any gas hit it Sandy, did my block in the same paint out of desperation and it sure didn't like 'any' gas. Looks good though. I'm going to try ordering some VHT engine paint over the net and see what happens.The head looks great by the way, that picture almost makes it look warm where you are.
 
CT used to stock it here. I wonder if its a local rule or a provincial hazardous products issue with you guys.

Ontario is a lot more civilized than we are so it has a lot more rules no doubt.
 
The VHT SP-127 is a HIGH temp engine enamel....I am not so sure that caliper paint wont bubble and burn off a 300 degree engine!!!



Order the SP 127 from Summit Racing or from Eastwood.
 
chuck hahn said:
The VHT SP-127 is a HIGH temp engine enamel....I am not so sure that caliper paint wont bubble and burn off a 300 degree engine!!!



Order the SP 127 from Summit Racing or from Eastwood.
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Actually the caliper paint requires baking at 300F so heat wise it should be good. Calipers under stress can get extremely hot so I don't think heat would be an issue. The gas thing surprises me though as I would think something impervious to brake fluid would be OK with gas. I guess before I paint my cylinders I should get the proper stuff. I think Eastwood has a Canadian outlet so maybe try that although I might be due for a trip to the Montana shipping outlet some stuff.
 
The caliper paint has a higher temp rating than the engine enamel. I contacted VHT and asked them if the caliper paint can be used on an engine. Their reply was it is pretty much the same composition so yes. Just ensure you use primer they said.

You have to bake the caliper paint 150 cel for 1 hour as per their instructions.
 
If it is rated for that kinda heat then i guess its all good. You are the first person I have heard of painting one with caliper paint though.
 
Fjbj40 said:
The caliper paint has a higher temp rating than the engine enamel. I contacted VHT and asked them if the caliper paint can be used on an engine. Their reply was it is pretty much the same composition so yes. Just ensure you use primer they said.

You have to bake the caliper paint 150 cel for 1 hour as per their instructions.
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Sort of what I thought, thanks for asking and the feedback. I baked mine at 300F for 1 1/2 hour a week ago so it should be cured. I'm going to do a gas test on an inconspicuous spot and see what happens. I'll report back.
 
OK, I did a gas test on the paint. I found a spot I could keep wet with raw gas and let it sit for about ten minutes. It had no affect on the paint at all, no bubbling, no colour coming off on the rag and no soft spots on the paint. I could scrape it with my thumb nail and not even leave a mark. The instructions do say that you must bake the paint to give it the durability and chemical resistance. Looks like this stuff is going work just fine.:dancing: It'll just need a long term test once I can swap the head out.
 
Sandy said:
OK, I did a gas test on the paint. I found a spot I could keep wet with raw gas and let it sit for about ten minutes. It had no affect on the paint at all, no bubbling, no colour coming off on the rag and no soft spots on the paint. I could scrape it with my thumb nail and not even leave a mark. The instructions do say that you must bake the paint to give it the durability and chemical resistance. Looks like this stuff is going work just fine.:dancing: It'll just need a long term test once I can swap the head out.
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Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?
 
anthonygs1000 said:
Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?
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Not sure but it probably would. I baked mine mainly because this is a spare head I'm putting together and it might be months before it is actually put into service and didn't know if sitting that long would be a problem or not. It's also still winter here and I didn't think letting it sit curing in a cold garage would be the best for it. Besides that's what the instructions said. Don't tell my wife I actually read them and certainly don't tell her I used HER oven when she was away.:eek:
 
Sandy said:
Not sure but it probably would. I baked mine mainly because this is a spare head I'm putting together and it might be months before it is actually put into service and didn't know if sitting that long would be a problem or not. It's also still winter here and I didn't think letting it sit curing in a cold garage would be the best for it. Besides that's what the instructions said. Don't tell my wife I actually read them and certainly don't tell her I used HER oven when she was away.:eek:
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The reason I was asking was i would love to touch up a complete motor and cant fit it in my oven :)
 
anthonygs1000 said:
Do you think running the engine would do the same thing and cure the paint ?
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It should work. The VHT cure process for the caliper paint if you don't bake it is to operate the brakes multiple times to heat them up real well and it will cure after several times at doing this. This info can be found on the VHT website by the way.

They were quite helpful when I emailed them with questions, you can reply when they answer you and do it as many times as you wish and it always goes back to the same person who first answered you. Kinda neat as you don't get bounced around and have to repeat your questions because it is always someone different answering the questions.;)

Regards,
Daryl
 
I'm guessing that's why mine didn't like the gas then. I haven't run the engine yet. Glad yours is working out Sandy, but there's no way, no how I could have cure mine in the oven..I would be single, lol. I can't tell you how many times I've stunk the house up, I think I'm out of chances. You should have been here the time I boiled carbs in Pine Sol, holy cow does that stuff stink! opps...:D
 
azr said:
I'm guessing that's why mine didn't like the gas then. I haven't run the engine yet. Glad yours is working out Sandy, but there's no way, no how I could have cure mine in the oven..I would be single, lol. I can't tell you how many times I've stunk the house up, I think I'm out of chances. You should have been here the time I boiled carbs in Pine Sol, holy cow does that stuff stink! opps...:D
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How did the carbs come out ?
 
Ant...yes. The can even has directions. Somethig like start the engine and let it warm up for X minutes..shut off for X minutes..repeat a few times.

By get it "hot" for the first heat cycle, when I did it, I got it real hot..but not hot enough to bubble the paint. Then i did it again maybe 4 or 5 times and slightly increased the run time each cycle.
 
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chuck hahn said:
ant...yes. The can even has directions. Somethig like start the engine and let it warm up for x minutes..shut off for x minutes..repeat a few times.

By get it "hot" for the first heat cycle, when i did it, i got it real hot..but not hot enough to bubble the paint. Ten i did it again maybe 4 or 5 times and slightly increased the run time each cycle.
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thank you sir !

 
anthonygs1000 said:
How did the carbs come out ?
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They turned out not 'too' bad. I don't think it would work well on really dirty carbs but those ones weren't too bad. But now I have a can of Berrymans so that's the end of PineSol, up here in Canada we have no decent quality carb dip so we have to smuggle up Berrymans...geez I feel like a drug dealer :p
 
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Was informed VHT bought out by duplicolour.. I called Rudy Held speed ?? shop in New Hamburg, I told them i wanted 127 vht paint code silver ,,,they said we will order it and by the way duplicoplour is new vht line. I ended up with duplicolour code CDE 1615 aluminumn, I am looking for a oven so i can paint a engine. I was also told bt rudy helds the duplicolour paint had a 127 number in it and when it came it did NOT, usuall **** service wherever you go it seems nowadays..
 
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