wire diagram colors not matching with coil - different colors

[rustybronco]

Shoot. There is another black/white strip wire I found. Didn't see it earlier. It is in a bundle that leads to the fuse box. It has an eyelet connector on it, so it that a ground as well? what would that screw to? The wire is only 3in long so it can't reach far.

That "black/white strip wire" is the ground for the fuse box "mounting plate" (the black panel the fuse box is attached to). as it is only three inches long it shouldn't be hard to find where it attaches.

(referring to the eyelet as seen in this illustration... http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0724.jpg)

Here is a closer pic of the black wire/white strip. It is coming out of the bottom of the white connector

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0711.jpg

I'm still working on the answer to why the wire was extended. I suspect it was to ground the R/R to the battery. (I haven't got to it as of yet. reason... is my bike is burried )

These 2 pictures show the blue wire coming out with a red wire to a white end connector with a messed up connection for another connector. It's a long line of wire. My finger is pointing to where it comes out of the harness, right before the battery.

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0719.jpg

What color wire(s) is (are) the that blue connected to? <question answered>

Here's another close up of the fuse box. It has the amps written above the slot for each one. They go 10, 10, 10, 15, 10.
The second one down keeps popping and then today the 15 is. So both of those keep popping now.

More than likely, the reason for the 15 amp fuse blowing, is because of a bad R/R (rectifier/regulator> the aluminum thing with the fins). where is your R/R located? under the battery box, or is it located where Larry is showing His? (Larry's R/R location... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p364/Larry_D/motorcycle/IMG_0633.jpg?t=1268825848

(I will need to know more about your R/R brand/type and possible connector modifications... don't concern yourself with that just yet. )

I pulled out the connector to get a better picture of the wires. That red one off to the left was just a random one from earlier and looks to be tied into the orange wire.

The orange wire comes from the ignition switch and connects to the top three 10 amp fuses. someone just tapped it to it to run power to some device.

a clarification if you would please... was that orange/red connection where the "gaggle" of extra red wires are (were) connected?


***done with my post edit. have at it!

 

[teamf4]

That blue one was connected to a black/white strip wire that comes out where the harness splits. Once group of wiring going to the fuse box the other group going to the 3 plugs(the black, red, and white one next to the fuse box)

It easily came apart so I just disconnected it at that point. There is about 3in of that black/white wire left.

 

[teamf4]

That "black/white strip wire" is the ground for the fuse box "mounting plate" (the black panel the fuse box is attached to). as it is only three inches long it shouldn't be hard to find where it attaches.

(referring to the eyelet as seen in this illustration... http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82%20gs1100gk/100_0724.jpg)

I'm still working on the answer to why the wire was extended. I suspect it was to ground the R/R to the battery. (I haven't got to it as of yet. reason... is my bike is burried )

What color wire(s) is (are) the that blue connected to? <question answered>

More than likely, the reason for the 15 amp fuse blowing, is because of a bad R/R (rectifier/regulator> the aluminum thing with the fins). where is your R/R located? under the battery box, or is it located where Larry is showing His? (Larry's R/R location... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p364/Larry_D/motorcycle/IMG_0633.jpg?t=1268825848

(I will need to know more about your R/R brand/type and possible connector modifications... don't concern yourself with that just yet. )

The orange wire comes from the ignition switch and connects to the top three 10 amp fuses. someone just tapped it to it to run power to some device.

a clarification if you would please... was that orange/red connection where the "gaggle" of extra red wires are (were) connected?


***done with my post edit. have at it!

Attached the black/white wire.

The R/R is located under the battery.

Yes, the red wire is connected to the orange/red wire. I didn't undue the electrical tape to see the actual connection to the orange/red wire but there is about 4in of the red left that was "gaggled" to other wires that I took off from there. But that portion is still attached to the orange/red wire.

EDITED - took the electrical tape off, the red wire was soldered to the orange/red.

 

[rustybronco]

Attached the black/white wire.

I assume you mean you attached it to the "mounting plate/or a screw on the "mounting plate "?

The R/R is located under the battery.

is there a connector or a plug near the R/R? (I'm trying to figure out with how to easily disconnect the red wire from the R/R to the fuse box)

Yes, the red wire is connected to the orange/red wire.

EDITED - took the electrical tape off, the red wire was soldered to the orange/red.

Snip the red wire as close to the orange as possible, then wrap it with electrical tape as to protect it. nice and neat please! (we wouldn't want be called "hacks' would we? )

 

[teamf4]

I assume you mean you attached it to the "mounting plate/or a screw on the "mounting plate "?
is there a connector or a plug near the R/R? (I'm trying to figure out with how to easily disconnect the red wire from the R/R to the fuse box)

Snip the red wire as close to the orange as possible, then wrap it with electrical tape as to protect it. nice and neat please! (we wouldn't want be called "hacks' would we? )

Yes, attached to the mounting plate.

The R/R is under the battery with the wires coming out of it on the left side and they are bundled together leading to the white connector. (the white one that is on the left side of the battery with the red, black and then the fuse box)

Edited - posted earlier, this is the white connector I'm talking about. The wires from it go into the R/R


Red wire snipped and wrapped up. Nice and Neat!

 

[rustybronco]

I was just about to un-cover my '82 to have a look.

back in a few...

***EDIT*** separate the white connector and plug in those two fuses.

 

[teamf4]

I was just about to un-cover my '82 to have a look.

back in a few...

***EDIT*** separate the white connector and plug in those two fuses.

white connector disconnected. Fuses replaced.

 

[rustybronco]

And both of the fuses didn't go POOOOF! ??

 

[teamf4]

And both of the fuses didn't go POOOOF! ??

second one down....poooof!!

 

[rustybronco]

We'll start with a new plan of attack tomorrow.

 

[teamf4]

We'll start with a new plan of attack tomorrow.

sounds good.

 

[Larry D]

Good Morning.

Here's some pics of the front wiring from my '84. Hope they help.

 

[rustybronco]

Good morning Larry, glad you're sticking with the thread. I helps me a lot!!!

as his bike had been de-GK'd http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/PICT0127.jpg , we may also need to have some pic's of the inside of a "G" headlamp housing if and when the time comes.

a statement revision...

contrary to what fuse information I listed before, according to the 'GK wiring diagram this is what the #2 fuse covers...

turn signal relay
turn signal control unit
brake light switches
fuel gauge
horn
gear indicator lights (N-1-2-3-4-5)

"#2 fuse may cover more" (need coffee first!)

let's see if we can get lucky... please disconnect the horn(s) (unplug the electrical wires) and try #2 again.

(crosses fingers)

***EDIT*** is this how the front wiring looks at the present time? http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82 gs1100gk/100_0708.jpg

 

[Larry D]

Good morning Larry, glad you're sticking with the thread. I helps me a lot!!!

as his bike had been de-GK'd http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/PICT0127.jpg , we may also need to have some pic's of the inside of a "G" headlamp housing if and when the time comes.

a statement revision...

contrary to what fuse information I listed before, according to the 'GK wiring diagram this is what the #2 fuse covers...

turn signal relay
turn signal control unit
brake light switches
fuel gauge
horn
gear indicator lights (N-1-2-3-4-5)

"#2 fuse may cover more" (need coffee first!)

let's see if we can get lucky... please disconnect the horn(s) and try #2 again.

(crosses fingers)

No.....Thank You !! I know next to nothing about electrical things. I do know how to take pictures though. I hate to see someone in need of assitance and I don't know enough to help. To bad there's not a member with electrical knowledge closer to the OP to lend a hand. Steve (skreemer) went out to help but, he's a few hundred miles away......I guess that's why this site (and all of us) are here.

Besides...another GK will be saved, which is worth it. IMHO.

 

[teamf4]

LarryD, your pictures look so good...wish my mess looked liked yours...

I will connect the horn and see what happens. LOL, think I should buy stock in fuses though.

 

[teamf4]

Good morning Larry, glad you're sticking with the thread. I helps me a lot!!!

as his bike had been de-GK'd http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/PICT0127.jpg , we may also need to have some pic's of the inside of a "G" headlamp housing if and when the time comes.

a statement revision...

contrary to what fuse information I listed before, according to the 'GK wiring diagram this is what the #2 fuse covers...

turn signal relay
turn signal control unit
brake light switches
fuel gauge
horn
gear indicator lights (N-1-2-3-4-5)

"#2 fuse may cover more" (need coffee first!)

let's see if we can get lucky... please disconnect the horn(s) (unplug the electrical wires) and try #2 again.

(crosses fingers)

***EDIT*** is this how the front wiring looks at the present time? http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/teamf4/82%20gs1100gk/100_0708.jpg

OOPPSSS....read your post wrong.

I hooked up the horn and replugged the white connector back in. Ya...POOF!

The horn hasn't been hooked up at all until I just did it.

Sorry, but could you please tell me what you mean by electrical wires.

Yes, that is what the front wiring looks like at this time. The "new" harness wires are hanging out, and the wiring for the headlight and such are still there from the old one.

EDITED - maybe that's the cause, eh?

Thanks!!

 

[rustybronco]

The horn hasn't been hooked up at all until I just did it.

Sorry, but could you please tell me what you mean by electrical wires.

What I meant was disconnect the power from the horns and see if #2 fuse stops blowing. I see you hadn't even hooked them up yet.
with the horns not connected it sure "blows that theory"...

It will have to be later on though, I have a "stress relieving" post to make after dinner.

 

[teamf4]

What I meant was disconnect the power from the horns and see if #2 fuse stops blowing. I see you hadn't even hooked them up yet.
with the horns not connected it sure "blows that theory"...

It will have to be later on though, I have a "stress relieving" post to make after dinner.

do you think the mess up front might be causing it? maybe wires are touching and I don't know it.

 

[teamf4]

Food for thought:

Here are some pictures of the front. The first one is just the harness coming out.

This picture shows the blue/red wires attached from the harness to the blue/red wires from the speedo

This white connector goes to the back of the indicator lights

This off white one goes to the tacho

The blue connector.. The blue connector has a light green wire out of it attached to another light green wire. The black wire out of the blue connector is attached to another black wire. There is a grayish wire and an orange/green strip wire.

This is a green/yellow strip wire attached to a green/white wire....

And then here is a melted connector. White wire, yellow/green strip, yellow/white strip coming out of the bottom of the melted connector.

 

[skreemer]

that one is the ignition kill for the clutch. (most folks do the same to disable them)