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    #31
    What about the "PASS" to the right of the horn Jeff? There isnt anything there ( below it that is ) to engage. The horn button is where it should be and obviously the turn indicators are above "PASS".

    I also have seen some on Ebay that have a "HAZARD" sign at the very bottom, as this one just has a plastic block off plug there.

    So can we assume this was once redone with European switches..or maybe brought back here by an American overseas at some time???
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #32
      Some of the European countries (Germany is one) require a 'pass' switch. Depending on the country this is either a temporary high beam, or in some cases there's a relay in the circuit that causes the headlight to flash between a high and low wattage setting. If you can find a European wiring diagram you'll see this on those version.

      Some of the early Z1/KZ handlebar switches had what appeared to be two horn buttons on the left switch - one was the horn, the other a headlight flasher, others had a rocker buttom with horm and flasher being on the opposite sides.

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        #33
        Jeff these switches DO NOT click into a detent at the PO position..just the ON and OFF spots..so US switch I miust assume.

        OK..for the latest update.

        The kill switch was totally wasted. The little ditches that the BB drops into had the edges all crunched off and the spring under the BB itself was just dust and bits of metal.

        Here is what I did to get it back in to service. First, I use the spring from a Suzuki front brake switch and whittled it down a little at a time till it was the right length for the BB to sit in and leave about 2/3 of the BB exposed.

        Next, I took a router bit and completely removed the ABS area that originally had the 3 ditches for the BB to drop in and index the kill switches positioning. Filled the area with ABS Plastic Weld epoxy stuff and let it harden. Then took the drill and chucked up a drill bit and went at it to remake the 3 ditches for the BB to index to.

        There was just enough of the original ditches left to get some marks, so I took tape and made marks so I would know where to make the new ditches. First attempt was a tad off as to having the arrow on the dial pointing correctly, so refilled and did it again. Got it pretty close to dead on.

        Then I had to cut the old rusted ringlet connectors off the wires, add some new wire and new ringlets to attach to the original spots. Soldered and shrink wrapped them. All is now restored and in working order.





        Last edited by chuck hahn; 05-21-2013, 01:55 PM.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #34
          Chuck, my KZ750 also has a "PO" position. I've read somewhere that it's "Parking Only", but I can't quote the source off the top of my head. It may have been the manual...I'll check when I get home this morning.

          On my bike, it lights all of the rear-facing lights (and maybe front turn sigs) only. Basically, it's to increase visibility when you're parked on the side of the road without killing your battery by running your headlight.
          1982 GS1100GL (Sold )(Retrieved!)
          1978 GS1000C (Sold, to be revived by Chuck)
          1979 GS1000EN (Parts Whore)
          1979 GS1000C (Collecting Dust)
          1980 GS750E (Sport-Touring Build...Someday?)
          1981 GS750L (Abandoned Project...maybe?)
          1982 GS750E (Collecting Dust)
          1983 GS750T (This is becoming a problem...)
          1981 GS650GL (Parts Whore / Cafe Donor)
          1981 GS550L (Cafe Project)

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            #35
            Matt...so why doesnt the BB click into a detent to hold the lever at the PO spot? It clicks in at the off and on settings though.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #36
              Frank came up today and we got the rest of the chassis disassembled. Gotta by some suplies and go to frame stripping and repainting phase.

              Showed him the repainted switches and he was drooling. He was very pleased with them.
              Last edited by chuck hahn; 07-12-2014, 07:19 PM.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #37
                Was a busy day today for the project. Got the frame, swing arm, triple tree, center stand all degreased.

                Dinged out the dent in horn cover best I could and removed the paint from it and the bracket.

                Disassebled, cleaned, and new grease in the speedo gear drive.


                I have the master cylinder and related hardware painted and baking as I am typing this. Should be cooked in about 2 hrs.

                Next will be the paint remoaval on the frame, wetsanding it and the rest of the frame parts. That will be another day though.









                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #38
                  last batch of pics......







                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #39
                    Superb, I don't blame Frank for drooling!

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                      #40
                      Master cylinder is all done.





                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #41
                        Just saw this as I have not been on the forum much. Love what you are doing. The KZ650 is one of my favorite vintage bikes. I was looking to purchase one when I got my Z1. I will love to see this one brought back to life. Good on ya for bringing it back from the dead and good on ya for doing it for kids.

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                          #42
                          Thanks Winfield...literally every square MM of this bike needs to be cleaned and uncorroded. Its gonna take some time but we will have her back to a really nice state. Not a 10 point concourse restoration, but all we can do for her we will.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #43
                            Nice work, Chuck. You're getting to have all the fun!
                            Apparently that Mitsuba horn was used on early 70s Hondas and perhaps a few Yamahas.
                            '80 GS1000ST
                            '92 ZX-11
                            Past rides: '79 GS1000SN, '84 GPZ900R

                            http://totalrider.com/

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                              #44
                              Thanks out to Nejeff for the stock horn and mounting bracket. We will come begging again later..LOL
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                                #45
                                No problem, glad to help a good cause if I can!

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