Stock paint has crooked emblem, clear coating over it, what to do?

[chuck hahn]

Set up a cross ventilation system with a 20 inch box fan or maybe even two. Have then blowing out to exhaust fumes and airbourne spray. Have a framed in furnace filter at the inlet end to filter out any debris from being let it from outside. Start the exhaust fans half an hour before starting to spray to kinda preclean the environment. And shop vac the hell out of the floor to get that as clean as you can. Idea is to create as sterile area as you can to avoind dust nibs or tiny bugs getting inti the paint. NOTHING will get you miffed more than everything being perfect then you see the nibs or a tiny gnat lands on the paint.

OOPS. I should have read the above post better. I see you have air filtration planned

[chuck hahn]

Remember to mix the paint really well to get all the metal flake from the bottom of the can.

[Nessism]

So Calif is a great place to paint outdoors. Of course, there are bugs, but they are minimal. I painted my KZ outside on the patio. Wet down the concrete to avoid dust and paint staining the concrete. Didn't want the area closed off too much, so the fumes would dissipate easily. In the end, I had minimal debris in the paint. Same thing for painting bike frames, totally exposed in the back yard.

Mind you, I used paint with isocyanates in them. Not good to breathe, even with a charcoal mask. I made sure to stay out of fume clouds. Sort of hold my breath, spray, and back off. Easy to do with motorcycle or bicycle parts.

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[chuck hahn]

Never thought about wetting the floor. Thats an awesome tip Ed.

[oldGSfan]

So Calif is a great place to paint outdoors. Of course, there are bugs, but they are minimal. I painted my KZ outside on the patio. Wet down the concrete to avoid dust and paint staining the concrete. Didn't want the area closed off too much, so the fumes would dissipate easily. In the end, I had minimal debris in the paint. Same thing for painting bike frames, totally exposed in the back yard.

Mind you, I used paint with isocyanates in them. Not good to breathe, even with a charcoal mask. I made sure to stay out of fume clouds. Sort of hold my breath, spray, and back off. Easy to do with motorcycle or bicycle parts.

I have had mostly good luck w/o a booth, such as using an EZ-up frame or hanging parts from the outside rail of that big awning. But my place always seems windy, and I have had gnats or flies land on the paint. I can't take the risk this time. I stand upwind and hold breath etc. like you do.

[oldGSfan]

Eh, the booth was a pain, at least it wasn't expensive. Too crowded and hard to see in there. Thankfully, the mornings have been cool, and at 10:30 the sun comes through a bit, just right with no wind. So I painted outside. Lesson learned.

I did the 2nd-best set, base, and clear this morning. It's all fine, the top of the tank is a bit bumpy, but as I have to wet-sand the clear for the decals on the sides, I'll do a bit of extra work on the top. Hard to spray downward. It's two good layers of clear, so there's plenty there to work with. Tomorrow I'll do the better set. The only issue with this first set is that there's a so-so line on the forward bottom (you can see it in the pic). I knew I couldn't get it perfect, but as it sits on the bike, it won't be an issue I'll worry about. I probably won't be able to do the decals and final two coats of clear, then wet sand and polish till mid-July, as I'll be out of town.

Took a great ride on my Norton this evening, it's so much fun. The local biker hangout is lame but that's what we have. Not motorcycle people, mainly paint, tattoos, chrome and doo-dads to ogle. Nobody knows what a Norton is. 30K bikes that get taken out posing on the weekends. I guess I'm posing too so I shouldn't be so snarky, but jeez. I remember when people on motorcycles knew motorcycles! Got my goofy mug in the mirror...

[Rob S.]

Took a great ride on my Norton this evening, it's so much fun. The local biker hangout is lame but that's what we have. Not motorcycle people, mainly paint, tattoos, chrome and doo-dads to ogle. Nobody knows what a Norton is. 30K bikes that get taken out posing on the weekends. I guess I'm posing too so I shouldn't be so snarky, but jeez. I remember when people on motorcycles knew motorcycles!

Can you do me a favor? Ask the owners of those bikes near your Norton how they keep the sand out of their va j j's when they're riding. I'd be interested to know.

[Nessism]

Looks like the clear went on too "dry". Too much orange peel. Finding the balance between low orange peel, and runs, can be a fine line.

What I do is spray the first layer of clear on fairly dry, and then follow up with two full "medium" heavy coats. Again, watch so you don't get (too many) runs, but a random run can be sanded out just as orange peel can.

When sanding, I use a gray scotchbrite. Be very careful that you don't sand through the clear, and hit the base. That will show during the next layers. You would be better off to leave a little orange peel, then cover it with the final clear layers. Where is Larry...?

[oldGSfan]

Looks like the clear went on too "dry". Too much orange peel. Finding the balance between low orange peel, and runs, can be a fine line.

What I do is spray the first layer of clear on fairly dry, and then follow up with two full "medium" heavy coats. Again, watch so you don't get (too many) runs, but a random run can be sanded out just as orange peel can.

When sanding, I use a gray scotchbrite. Be very careful that you don't sand through the clear, and hit the base. That will show during the next layers. You would be better off to leave a little orange peel, then cover it with the final clear layers. Where is Larry...?

Yes the first set not so great but fixable. I figured it out on 2nd set which came out much better. I used 'slow' hardener but the sun had come out. 2nd set the temp was right and it flowed well. Getting the hang of it.

[chuck hahn]

Yes on time and temps. I paint in the early morning or in the shade if possible. You dont want parts hot from direct sunlight. They flash super fast and its bad.

[Nessism]

That second set looks better. It does take time to learn your gun and how it lays down what specific paint you are using. And speaking of paint, have you ever tried that Nason black you took home from my place? That stuff flows out so good, and doesn't like to run either.

[chuck hahn]

Here ya go Tom........

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[oldGSfan]

That second set looks better. It does take time to learn your gun and how it lays down what specific paint you are using. And speaking of paint, have you ever tried that Nason black you took home from my place? That stuff flows out so good, and doesn't like to run either.

No, I still have it - I do plan to use it. I should have used it on my Norton's frame but events and equipment conspired against me. Now I have a nice quiet compressor with filtration, a good gun and all the cups, filters, and reasonable know-how. Since I now will have an extra full set of nice GS1100E bodywork (actually 2 extras, as there's another in the attic off an 82, hmmm) I may be on the lookout for a third bike to throw them on and sell for fun and profit.

[oldGSfan]

Yes on time and temps. I paint in the early morning or in the shade if possible. You dont want parts hot from direct sunlight. They flash super fast and its bad.

Yeah I was hustling doing prep and the top of the tank got too warm as the sun broke through. The clear on the top of the tank is the main area that got bumpy, the other stuff's pretty good.

The weather has been in a pattern of overcast till about 10:30 AM, providing shade. I started about an hour earlier on the set yesterday vs Thursday's.

[chuck hahn]

Overcast is fine long as it doesnt throw any random sprinkles.. hire that girl in the cartoon..lol