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    Help: Broken fuel pilot tip

    Hi guys,
    So I got round to stripping my VM26SS carbs today and..... HELLO. Don't you just love PO's?

    I've found a supplier for a carb kit that includes the fuel pilot, this one right?


    Question. Are these any good or does anyone know any better preferably with shipping to the UK?

    Question: I'm sure you can guess where the PO left the tip of the fuel pilot. Yep buried in the carb body. Does anyone have any neat tricks for removing the broken tip without trashing the body?

    Thanks in advance,
    Jo

    #2
    Z1 have them:

    Z1 Enterprises specializes in quality Motorcycle parts for Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha Classic Japanese motorcycles from the 1970's and 1980's.


    Kawasaki style with the longer body but other than that they are the same.

    Getting the stuck tip out can be a bugger. Try compressed air with a very tight fit rubber hose first. Next is a fine tipped punch. Make sure you tap it dead square on.
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      #3
      I have some very fine picks that can be described as "dental tools".

      I use the straight one, poke it down from the top of the carb, give it a little tap, the broken tip falls right on through.

      Unless you really give it a wallop, it won't do any damage to the hole.

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        #4
        i bought some from Z1 recently and am unsure about using them, they do not come to a fine point like the Suzuki ones do and the tips are larger than stock items. i have fitted them but not used them yet so i dont know if they actually work!
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          #5
          There's a guide on BasCliff's site for removing those tips
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            #6
            Here...they have the CV mixture screws too. VM 26 bowl gaskets for 9.00 per 4 pack. I have been telling you guys forever about them..noone listening???? Under select make choose Suzuki. Under select part choose carb stuff

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              #7
              Send me your addy and I'll send you one "por nada"!
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                #8
                Originally posted by Charlie G View Post
                Send me your addy and I'll send you one "por nada"!

                There's your easiest solution. Just for reference I've used the fuel mixture screws on enough VM carbs to know they work perfectly. Oldest one I have so far is 5 years of use and it looks like brand new. Mine also came to the same fine point that the OEM ones do.
                Rob
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                  #9
                  In a pinch I have used screws with broken off tips by sharpening them. Chuck it in a drill, spin it and hold it against a grinder at just the right angle. You will have to adjust the carb by ear, it won't be the same number of turns out as the others, but it will run fine once you get it adjusted correctly. I think it was still on the 750/1000 I sold a while ago….


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                    #10
                    In a pinch I have used screws with broken off tips by sharpening them. Chuck it in a drill, spin it and hold it against a grinder at just the right angle. You will have to adjust the carb by ear, it won't be the same number of turns out as the others, but it will run fine once you get it adjusted correctly. I think one of them was still on the 750/1000 I sold a while ago….


                    Life is too short to ride an L.

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                      #11
                      Basscliff's Tutorial

                      Here is Basscliff's Tutorial on the subject:



                      First things first: "OK so you get over it, have a beer, relax,"

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                        Here is Basscliff's Tutorial on the subject:



                        First things first: "OK so you get over it, have a beer, relax,"

                        Greetings
                        Why is it I can never find these things on basscliffes site

                        Thanks guys for all your help. Charlie I'll be in touch soon. Still waiting for the crap online store to send me the correct part you wanted.....

                        Cheers all.

                        Will give you an update later.

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                          #13
                          So that's what I call a minging carb...

                          The others are the same.

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                            #14
                            don't I know it.

                            I just bought a set of RS38's from this site and 2 of the mixture screws were broken EXACTLY LIKE THIS!!!

                            all I can say is take it slow and easy drilling out the brass. I have a ultrasonic cleaner and that helped with one. the other not so much...

                            but I got them out -- ordered new mixture screws from sudco -- then would you guess there is a problem in the slide linkages..

                            Scoundrels are everywhere even the GS resourses -- got a problem part you just mutilated? sell it to a dumb ass on the internet.



                            Originally posted by JAG View Post
                            Hi guys,
                            So I got round to stripping my VM26SS carbs today and..... HELLO. Don't you just love PO's?

                            I've found a supplier for a carb kit that includes the fuel pilot, this one right?


                            Question. Are these any good or does anyone know any better preferably with shipping to the UK?

                            Question: I'm sure you can guess where the PO left the tip of the fuel pilot. Yep buried in the carb body. Does anyone have any neat tricks for removing the broken tip without trashing the body?

                            Thanks in advance,
                            Jo
                            SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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