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  • racquetman

    #1

    #2 cylinder not heating up

    81 GS850L fires right up w/o choke. Just had carbs rebuilt, yet the #2 cylinder remains cold when the other three are heated up. I laid a firing indicator on each spark plug wire, the #2 looked weaker than the other three. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Guest; 02-25-2010, 02:27 PM.
  • Suzuki_Don

    #2
    To start with replace the spark plug in #2 and remove old spark plug cap from HT lead. Cut 1/4" off end of HT lead and fit new spark plug cap. See how that goes.

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    • racquetman

      #3
      Thanks, btw they are all brand new plugs. HT?
      Last edited by Guest; 02-25-2010, 03:52 PM.

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      • Suzuki_Don

        #4
        Originally posted by racquetman
        Thanks, btw they are all brand new plugs. HT?
        HT = High Tension lead or spark plug leads.
        Last edited by Guest; 02-26-2010, 04:39 AM.

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        • Guest

          #5
          Pull the vacuum line off the petcock, plug it, put it on prime and see if it heats up then.

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          • chuck hahn
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            #6
            Bill..If the other three are firing and getting hot then it stands to reason that fuel IS passing thru all 4 carbs..fuel cant get to 1 or 4 without passing thru 2 and 3 via the transfer tubes. So that would mean that the petcock is working WITH the vacuum line attatched and letting fuel flow or else none of the carbs would have fuel. I was wondering what plugging the vacuum line and putting it on prime will do? Now one coil fires 1 and 4 and the other fires 2 and 3.. What i am wondering is would it be possible that since he stated that #2 has a weaker reading than the other three can one sdie of a coil go bad and cause this? I was just wondering.. i have never heard of a coil going bad and not loosing both cylinders it supports.. just wondering because myself and Scot Janes were checking this out as we were gatting him registered and showing him around the forum.. Not saying your wrong or anything... just curious about this...
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            • Guest

              #7
              The vacuum line is pulling extra fuel into #2. I bet if he pulls the plug it is black.
              The petcock is still operating but the diaphram is leaking.
              This is my best guess since I'm not looking at the bike.

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              • Steve
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                • Jun 2005
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                #8
                Just because fuel is going through #2 carb to get to #1 does not mean that it's getting past the float valve into #2.

                If the petcock diaphragm has a leak, and the float valve in #2 is stuck closed, there might be some fuel getting to the cylinder, but not the right mixture to fire, so eliminate the source of the possible leak.

                It's not impossible for one side of the coil to fail, but it is highly improbable. It's more likely that there is a bad connection from the wire to the cap or a fouled plug.

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                • chuck hahn
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                  #9
                  Thanks for the answers. and steve i thought the same about the coil failure. I havent experienced one myself but i have always heard it kills both or it fires both...usually no in between.. makes sense.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  • bwringer
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chef1366
                    The vacuum line is pulling extra fuel into #2. I bet if he pulls the plug it is black.
                    The petcock is still operating but the diaphram is leaking.
                    This is my best guess since I'm not looking at the bike.

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                    • racquetman

                      #11
                      Thanks for the help guys/gals. I did pull the #2 plug and yep it was pretty carboned up black, looked at #1 and was clean. Looks like time to invest in a new petcock diaphram? Special thanks to BWRinger, that's why you are a superstar!
                      Last edited by Guest; 02-27-2010, 11:14 PM.

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                      • Big T
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by racquetman
                        Thanks for the help guys/gals. I did pull the #2 plug and yep it was pretty carboned up black, looked at #1 and was clean. Looks like time to invest in a new petcock diaphram?
                        Get a new petcock

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                        • racquetman

                          #13
                          Thanks Big T. Along with everyone else. Y'all are the best.

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