GS450 Mega Build

[pete]

I like it... that duck tail does look good, but mine won't suit what I'm doing, completely different builds

Glad to hear my suggestion was useful, I find that a little unusual

Katana

Katana wheels are up on CL. I like the larger front wheel. 19" vs. 17" looks funny to me.

Scott

It's looking good. I actually like the stock tail. More progress than me lol.

So I have a question. Are you gonna use the stock rear wheel? Or the Katana wheels?

Progress.....

Pete, I took your advice, and just angled the tubing. Looks pretty clean. Made up the new subframe and battery mount. Played around with a few different rear ends, and I just kept coming back to the stock ducktail. I think it will look pretty damn good when finished up. I did a LOT of welding today. Ran out of gas as usual....

[pete]

Can't help with the shock mount, but I agree that the twin tubes look a little odd there for sure.

I'm not sure if this is gonna be a clear explanation of what I'm thinking or not but I'll try...

Is it better to put the brace from the left to right side, leaving it at a slightly odd angle, then attaching the shock mount with a wedge shaped piece to compensate? Not sure if that would compromise the strength or anything though.

I hope that makes some sort of sense...

Thanks

Thanks for the feedback. I am going to wait until it gets on it's feet before looking at the rear end again. Fabbed up some shock mounts and cross bracing this afternoon. Not sure I like the "twin" frame tubes on the left side. I may just make up a connector for the rectangle and the original tube with some nice gussets.

On the shock linkage, what's the idea on placement? Should I be looking for roughly level eye to eye, or canted up in the front/rear? I only want to weld this thing ONCE.

[pete]

Ok well I'm gonna say I like the tank as it was... just to be different Dunno why but my personal taste I guess...

As far as the rear goes, I'm with Charlie that the stock duck tail is a little too large, somewhat out of proportion to the tank, and the 450 tank's are an excellent shape for cafe style etc.

To be honest I'm not sold on how the rear looks in the mock up there, not sure whether it's the duck tail though or the extra long swing arm...

However, this is *yours* and I ain't gonna rain on your parade

How would it be with a stock length T seat or an alternative flat seat I wonder?

[Charlie G]

Scotty,

I agree with you on raising that tank up in the rear, I never thought of doing that. I had always wanted to move the rear cowl to just behind the shock mount, or 7" foward. I think I would rock the rear of the cowl down a bit. I always thought the rear cowl was a bit oversized, in relation to the tank size. I do think the cowl's angular shape works well with the tank. Your moving along faster than I would. Gret going!

cg

hard to say about that rear end... It doesn't particularly flow with the rest of the bodywork (I'm visualizing a sloping line from the top of the tank to the rear cowl and it almost lines up), but then again that might be what you're shooting for. That lip should get cut off, seems to disrupt it even further. What kind of tail light are you going to use? With that kind of tail, I'm imagining a blacked out metal mesh flush with the bottom line hiding a slew of LED's. Now that's got my blood flowing!!

Slaving away...

Lots of grinding and filing! Haven't started fitting things up quite yet as I am waiting on on overdue bearing from Bike Bandit. I have all the tubing to get started with the shock mounts and new rear subframe. Who knew that the 450 frame was asymmetric! The motor mounts are offset by about and inch and a half. Instead of bending a crossbar for the upper shock mount, I am simply adding another side tube from the donor frame. Can you spot it in the pic?

I made a few decisions about the look of the bike, but could use your help. The picture shows the tank raised up in the back by a few inches. I really hate that the profile of the stock tank location is almost bent downwards, like a broken log. Raising it up slightly gives it that sporty look. Gonna weld that mount up this weekend.

I also bent the rear tail section upwards by five degrees in order to get a better look at that beautiful rear end. Swingarm angle is going to be about 12 degrees or so.

So, what to do about that rear cowl? Solo seat for sure, but moved in 8 inches like in the photo, or stretched back out?

Oh, and thanks to Jpual for the GS500 head. Looks good eh?

Yeah?

wish you were closer man. These wheels are going to be a pain to mount up. The front one would require a ton of work to space the calipers AGAIN, and the rear would be iffy on chain clearance. I just couldn't pass them up for Cheap $$. These are going on the shelf for a rainy day. Besides I LOVE the look of the 19 up front.

Should be getting the brakes sorted out by next weekend.....

Scott

[pete]

I must say I like that photochop... I like it a lot!

That stock front mudguard actually works really well with that image too which is amazing.

I like how you colored the rear suspension

So you're going the mono shock route, eh? Interesting...

By the way, those two GS500's are all yours. They both look good to me and from what I have seen, the GS500 swingarm and wheels is a very simple swap for the GS450.

Swingarm Business

Got my Katana swingarm. Guess I bought the wrong one though, because the swap is going to be a PIA. Stock swingarm is about 201.5mm. The new Katana is 240mm with 35mm bearing faces. Now, that sounds like an easy bearing swap and a bit of a shave right? Nope. I cannot find a 22x29x20ish needle bearing anywhere. I checked McMaster-Carr, Applied Bearing, and a couple of bike stores seeing if I could fit something. Now I have to go and find a machinist to do the Mill work. Mo-money......

Here is the setup zip-tied in place and a photochop of what my end product might look like.

cool

Yeah, just got some real risers in case I go with new bars. The headlights are actually a blue color. They are H1 bulbs, not true low/high's like the H4. I use one for day, both for night. That's the theory anyway, I haven't got my spacers for the rotors yet.....