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    #91
    tatu -well in so far as a replacement rectifier is required. Probably 2 - one for each bike. Although putting my Dad's rectifier on the GS1150ES shows it to be charging OK. The GS1150 arrived with no rectifier so I still need 2. Think I'll just go with 2nd hand for now.

    Greetings
    Richard
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    GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
    GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
    GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
    GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
    Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
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      #92
      Originally posted by londonboards View Post
      tatu -well in so far as a replacement rectifier is required. Probably 2 - one for each bike. Although putting my Dad's rectifier on the GS1150ES shows it to be charging OK. The GS1150 arrived with no rectifier so I still need 2. Think I'll just go with 2nd hand for now.

      Greetings
      I have a 2nd hand SH-532-12 if you want to try it, (6 wire) msg me on FB just in case I miss it on here


      this one .... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/suzuki-g10...p2047675.l2557
      Last edited by Guest; 04-06-2014, 08:19 AM.

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        #93
        New Rectifier Installed

        Got a new rectifier and tested it out as perfect. Put it on and tidied up some of the wiring including removing the stator headlamp loop and improving the grounding of the rectifier by wiring it directly to the battery (black lead only).

        See: My GS Road Runner Blog - New Rectifier







        And look, I do know what a nice battery box should look like. Don't have time to refurb this one. I just want to get back on the road. See:



        Some of the wiring horror I encountered:



        I will be back on the road any day now.

        I'm off the Amsterdam in May so it best be ready.

        Greetings
        Richard
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        GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
        GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
        GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
        GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
        Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
        Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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          #94
          Ahhhh, so I guess that was your problem... good luck with the testing

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            #95
            New Meter Readings

            With the new rectifier installed I got some more meter readings:



            Greetings
            Richard
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            GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
            GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
            GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
            GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
            Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
            Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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              #96
              Looks good

              She looks like she's charging well!

              1983 GS750ED-Horsetraded for the Ironhead
              1981 HD XLH

              Drew's 850 L Restoration

              Drew's 83 750E Project

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                #97
                And here are the results:

                My results are:

                1). Key off: 12.78v
                2). Key on: 12.18v (headlamp on) 12.32v (headlamp off)
                3). At idle: 13.2v (at 1,100 rpm)
                4). At 2,500 rpm: 13.83v
                5). At 4,500 rpm: 14.05v
                6). Key Off: 12.90v

                These readings are all within prescribed ranges. And I therefore certify the bike as fixed for now.

                Except I now have to fix the wiring that was burned up in the process.

                Greetings
                Richard
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                GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                  #98
                  And here is the wiring that needs fixing. How far up does the damage go?









                  Is this likely to be all the way up to the headlamp shell?

                  Those wiring diagrams are great but what I need is a wiring loom diagram which shows which cables are bundled together and where they end up.

                  Greetings
                  Richard
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                  GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                  GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                  Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                  Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                    And here is the wiring that needs fixing. How far up does the damage go?

                    Is this likely to be all the way up to the headlamp shell?

                    Those wiring diagrams are great but what I need is a wiring loom diagram which shows which cables are bundled together and where they end up.

                    Greetings
                    The wire will have got hottest and burntest closest to the short so reducing in heat the further away you go so you might find a place where it isn't burned but best to assume it is and replace the whole piece.
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                    Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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                      tatu - darn that means unwrapping the whole wiring loom right up to the headlamp shell - right?

                      Greetings
                      Richard
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                      GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                      GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                      Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                      Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                        Originally posted by eil View Post
                        That test doesn't make any sense. It's saying to put the multimeter in the "diode test function" and then uses volts for expected readings? There are a few problems with this.

                        The diode test function on most meters is more of a continuity test... if there's "continuity" (typically defined as resistance below an arbitrary threshold) between the two test leads, then beep. Otherwise, be silent. My meter shows the readings in ohms (I believe yours does as well), but assuming that some meters show it in volts, there's the additional wrinkle that different meters use different batteries.
                        I am going to try to see if I can clarify this just a bit, even though you have resolved the R/R issue and moved on.

                        If you use your meter in the OHMS position to check a diode, you will get a reading of the resistance in the diode.
                        In one direction, you will get a reading. What that reading is, will depend on the specific composition of the diode, but will be consistent with other diodes of the same type. If you reverse the leads, you will get an "out of range" indication. Some meters show this with a "-1-", others with "-OL-", but it will not be a meaningful number.

                        If your meter has a DIODE FUNCTION, the reading that it gives you is in VOLTS.
                        That voltage is the 'breakdown voltage' of the diode. Much like the resistance test mentioned above, there will be a reading (probably just over half a volt) in one direction, and when the leads are reversed, there will be an 'out of range' indication.

                        The readings that you got earlier, which ranged from 620 to 670, were actually millivolt readings, meaning that they are 0.620 to 0.670 volts. Those are all within the range of "just over half a volt" and are consistent enough with each other to be valid readings. If you were to find one of 420, say, it would be highly suspect. You found some bad readings, and they confirm that the RECTIFIER portion of the device is, indeed, bad.

                        And, ... the fact that "different meters use different batteries" means absolutely NOTHING.
                        They are all going to have enough battery power to do their job, so type (or quantity) of batteries is totally irrelevant.

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                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                          Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                          tatu - darn that means unwrapping the whole wiring loom right up to the headlamp shell - right?

                          Greetings
                          also gives you a chance to run a higher amp earth, and add a few extra grounds... pain but pays dividends in the future

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                            Steve - Brilliant synopsis - thank you for taking the time to write that. Clears it up completely.

                            Greetings
                            Richard
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                            GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                            GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                            Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                            Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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                              Originally posted by londonboards View Post
                              Steve - Brilliant synopsis - thank you for taking the time to write that. Clears it up completely.

                              Greetings
                              I'd like to say it was my pleasure. (Really, I'd like to. )

                              I do things like that because so many bike owners say "I hate electrics" or "electrical work is so confusing", but I find it rather easy.

                              Whenever I am trying to teach anybody something, I try to relate it to something that they already know, to make the association easier.
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                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                                Getting Ready for a Long Distance Ride

                                I wanted the bike to be more comfortable for a long road trip to Italy. It has rather short bars on (which I prefer to the original cow horn type) but the feet forward pegs were not right for me. So I bought a set of Raask rear-sets.

                                See My Blog GS1100G - Long Distance Mods

                                Raask used to be top notch but quality is pretty poor now.







                                I also put on some handlebar end weights to reduce vibration. The bonus was that I discovered that I now also had a cruise control.



                                Next up will be a small screen.

                                Greetings
                                Last edited by londonboards; 08-10-2014, 07:44 PM.
                                Richard
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                                GS1150 EF bought Jun 2015
                                GS1150 ES bought Mar 2014: ES Makeover Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                GS1100 G (2) bought Aug 2013: Road Runner Project Thread AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                GS1100 G (1) Dad bought new 1985 (in rebuild) see: Dad's GS1100 G Rebuild AND blog: Go to the Blog
                                Previously owned: Suzuki GS750 EF (Canada), Suzuki GS750 (UK)(Avatar circa 1977), Yamaha XT500, Suzuki T500, Honda XL125, Garelli 50
                                Join the United Kingdom (UK) Suzuki GS Facebook Group here

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