1981 gs750 (gs750e) Retro Racer project

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  • LarsKroghStea
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    • Oct 2015
    • 389
    • Aust-Agder Norway

    #136
    Found a good rebuild tutorial online:








    2019-06-09_11-33-11 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


    2019-06-09_11-33-00 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


    Stupid as I am, I didn't bring the carbs home with me. I'll make some tube adaptors for the drainholes while I wait for my next wrenchday..

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    • LarsKroghStea
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      • Oct 2015
      • 389
      • Aust-Agder Norway

      #137
      I'm learning a few things about carburettors today..


      The hoses I thought were overflow-circuits are really just for venting. The reason for connecting hoses to them is so gas will flow away from the engine in case of a crash where the bike is left lying on the side. Makes more sense since they're located so high up.


      The leftmost hole on the intake side is the real vent and is where gas will overflow. I guess that points to the float/needle.


      2019-06-10_12-50-50 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

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      • LarsKroghStea
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        • Oct 2015
        • 389
        • Aust-Agder Norway

        #138
        I've also read page 4-5 and onwards in the workshop manual for an explanation on why gas flows from both holes, so I'm now confident I have it narrowed down to wrong float setting or some obstruction or similar problem connected to the needle not making a good enough seal to stop the gas from flowing.

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        • cowboyup3371
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          • Apr 2010
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          #139
          Quit reading that one and get Nessism's CV rebuild tutorial from Basscliff's site. It is a much better written one.

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          • LarsKroghStea
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            • Oct 2015
            • 389
            • Aust-Agder Norway

            #140
            Originally posted by cowboyup3371
            Quit reading that one and get Nessism's CV rebuild tutorial from Basscliff's site. It is a much better written one.

            http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff

            A million thanks yous! I've never scrolled past the manuals section of that page. I now see that it's a gold mine of information

            EDIT: It's the same tutorial that I've got from somewhere else. But thanks for showing me the rest of the site
            Last edited by LarsKroghStea; 06-10-2019, 04:51 AM.

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            • LarsKroghStea
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              • Oct 2015
              • 389
              • Aust-Agder Norway

              #141
              This is a picture of how my bike was assembled. Some kind of thick radiator hose sits loosely over the intake boot and carb opening.


              48036867868_135740661c_o by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


              Next picture shows my brothers bike (same model and year). This is an airtight assembly:


              riktig_muffe by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


              My bike is sucking in lots of unfiltered air and at the same time the intake plenum is not alowed to do its job as it's supposed to. Next picture shows one of the intake boots. It's inside diameter is about 45mm and on the carb the outside diameter is about 53mm. Not an optimal solution..


              feil_muffe by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


              They don't make a particularly tight connection with the holes in the plenumbox. This is also why gas poured over my engine.. If everything was done correctly, excess fluid would flow out the boots and down the draintube in the bottom of the plenum. One less firehazard to worry about when this is corrected Guess the bike will run smoother as well.

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              • LarsKroghStea
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                • Oct 2015
                • 389
                • Aust-Agder Norway

                #142
                New carburetor boots. Ordered the original Suzuki ones and the rubber seems brand new 😊


                2019-06-30_06-42-06 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


                I took apart the carbs and cleaned the float needle and filter. Now there's no leaks and the fuel level is correct when measured through the clear hose.


                2019-06-30_06-44-39 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


                I also took the oppurtunity to change the rail bolts into unbrakos:


                Untitled13 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

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                • Buffalo Bill
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                  • Jun 2008
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                  #143
                  4 years and your bike ain't rideble yet???
                  I can't take your project as serious…
                  1982 GS1100G-
                  1990 GSX750/1127
                  1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane
                  1985 Kawasaki GPz750

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                  • LarsKroghStea
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                    • Oct 2015
                    • 389
                    • Aust-Agder Norway

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
                    4 years and your bike ain't rideble yet???
                    I can't take your project as serious…
                    Qurious to know the chain of thoughts leading up to that post.. I think I've explained this more than once..
                    Or are you just angry because you spent your time reading a few posts and now the ending isn't in plain sight?

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                    • Buffalo Bill
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                      #145
                      Originally posted by LarsKroghStea
                      Qurious to know the chain of thoughts leading up to that post.. I think I've explained this more than once..
                      Or are you just angry because you spent your time reading a few posts and now the ending isn't in plain sight?
                      Maybe my bad. Right, I just read the last few posts and looks like you've never had the bike on the road.
                      You titled this thread retro racer, so are you racing the bike?
                      1982 GS1100G-
                      1990 GSX750/1127
                      1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane
                      1985 Kawasaki GPz750

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                      • Nessism
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                        #146
                        Be sure to only use the type of fuel filter that flows with a gravity feed system. Many of the paper type filters cause a restriction. In the USA the gravity feed system filters are for lawn mowers and machines like that.

                        Keep going, you are doing a good job...
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

                        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        • LarsKroghStea
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                          • Oct 2015
                          • 389
                          • Aust-Agder Norway

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
                          Maybe my bad. Right, I just read the last few posts and looks like you've never had the bike on the road.
                          You titled this thread retro racer, so are you racing the bike?
                          No problem I bought this particular bike because my Brother has the same model.

                          My brother and I live about 3,5 hours apart and our father lives somewhere between. A little over an hour from my house.
                          The bikes are in his basement, and we meet up at his house once in a while to work on them. The bike was in OK running shape when i got it.
                          I rode it the first summer and the i picked it apart to rebuild it. The project, for me, is more about building than riding. Everytime I'm close to getting it on the road some new idea pops up. This summer, however I'm putting it back on the road as a friend of mine got his motorcycle license, and we're planning som daytrips around here.

                          If you read more posts you will find that much time is spent how the different parts will look and how I'm going to make them. The rearsets for example is CAD drawn and made by me on a CNC router. The pegs are made by me on a lathe. Both are stuff I had to learn while i was doing it. The seat is the first part that I've ever welded, and the seat I made on my wifes sewingmachine wile looking at a youtube wideo. My 13 year old daughter showed me how to thread the machine. I've also built the weels from OLD and new parts and powderdoated the parts with I kit I bought. I've recently bought an anodising kit, and when the top triple is finished I will anodise it and the rearset and write text on them with a laser engraver a friend of mine has. So you see, it's more about the process than the end for me.

                          But as I said, it will be on the road in a few weeks, so if you're interested, just follow the thread.

                          For the racing part, it's only inthe name. I thought it would be wrong to call it a cafe racer, so I came up with something similar that I think sounds cool

                          I also have a GSXR750 USD fork with Yamaha R1 brakes that I'll finish together with Cognito moto front wheel next winter.

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                          • LarsKroghStea
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                            • Oct 2015
                            • 389
                            • Aust-Agder Norway

                            #148
                            Originally posted by Nessism
                            Be sure to only use the type of fuel filter that flows with a gravity feed system. Many of the paper type filters cause a restriction. In the USA the gravity feed system filters are for lawn mowers and machines like that.

                            Keep going, you are doing a good job...
                            Thank you And I'll keep in mind the info about the fuel filter.

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                            • LarsKroghStea
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                              • Oct 2015
                              • 389
                              • Aust-Agder Norway

                              #149
                              First test run on the road. Tank and seat are stowed away until all the wiring and cables are routed correctly. I'm quite happy with the seating position. Work done today is; 520 conversion, mounting brakes, throttle and clutch. Next time is carb tuning After that cable routing and finishing.



                              Last edited by LarsKroghStea; 07-03-2019, 04:36 AM.

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                              • LarsKroghStea
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                                • Oct 2015
                                • 389
                                • Aust-Agder Norway

                                #150
                                Btw, I have a Kerker 4-1 exhaust on. Anyone knows what kind of gaskets I need for this?
                                Last edited by LarsKroghStea; 07-03-2019, 05:01 AM.

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