Rear Wheel Removal - Final Drive Unit - Hub/Spine Greasing

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  • storm 64
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    • May 2012
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    #16
    First double check with Chef to make sure he still has the needed spline. Thats who I bought mine from, he may have more... The "clips" that hold the spline in place on the 82 goes into a groove on spline. The older ones are more like a rectangular tab that holds the spline moving out(no groove) Kind of hard to explain. Maybe someone can elaborate a little more...
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    • growler

      #17
      Hah, then it was you he sold it to. All good! I'll keep looking. Thanks for the info on the clips. I'll do my research before purchasing.

      Originally posted by storm 64
      First double check with Chef to make sure he still has the needed spline. Thats who I bought mine from, he may have more... The "clips" that hold the spline in place on the 82 goes into a groove on spline. The older ones are more like a rectangular tab that holds the spline moving out(no groove) Kind of hard to explain. Maybe someone can elaborate a little more...

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      • storm 64
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        #18
        Message witttom I bet he has one...
        My Motorcycles:
        22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
        22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
        82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
        81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
        79 1000e (all original)
        82 850g (all original)
        80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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        • growler

          #19
          Spent some time cleaning up the splines today, and they are in better shape than I thought. Here are some photos. Pretty hard to get good shots with my phone.

          Got the rear tire mounted. Now onto the front.





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          • eil
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            • Dec 2012
            • 3062
            • SE Michigan

            #20
            My bad, I couldn't see any wear from your first set of photos. How deep is the wear on those splines?
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            • bwringer
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              #21
              Great pics!

              That's significant wear, and that driven spline is not long for this world. Replace ASAP. The teeth are surface hardened, so they do not wear in a linear fashion. It also wears much faster since the drive spline can slam back and forth. Even though it only looks 30 or 40% worn, you've got less than 5% life left.

              That said, it'll go a little longer so it would be reasonable to put it back together and ride for a week or two until you get a new driven spline. But don't delay.



              Also, the M-77 paste will be fine.
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              • growler

                #22
                Man, I had one of my bike friends look at it closely and feel all the teeth with a pick for wear. They said it's in great shape, grease (moly paste) it up and ride. Hmm. Maybe the spline isn't clean enough in my photos.

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                • jsandidge
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by growler
                  Man, I had one of my bike friends look at it closely and feel all the teeth with a pick for wear. They said it's in great shape, grease (moly paste) it up and ride. Hmm. Maybe the spline isn't clean enough in my photos.
                  Sorry to say you're bike friend is mistaken. That spline is very worn. Just like mine was.
                  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zH8w8Civs8ejBJWjdvYi1LNTg&resourcekey=0-hlJp0Yc4K_VN9g7Jyy4KQg&authuser=fussbucket_1%40msn.com&usp=drive_fs
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                  • Charlie G
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                    #24
                    That center picture looks bad, at least 50% gone and has been said thats a lot. I've found that you really can't judge how bad it is without pulling the spline off the wheel.

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                    • growler

                      #25
                      ok. thanks for the input. guess i'll start looking for a replacement.

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                      • growler

                        #26
                        i'll remove the spine tomorrow and post more photos.

                        how do you remove it?

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                        • bwringer
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                          #27
                          Trust your GS bike friends... believe me, we've seen lots of these things.

                          To remove the driven spline from the wheel, remove the bolts and retention plates (obviously...) then GENTLY pry it from the wheel a little at a time using two levers (big screwdrivers or similar), one on each side. Be careful of the aluminum wheel. It shouldn't really take much force to get it moving, but you have to make sure it comes out evenly.
                          1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
                          2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
                          2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
                          Eat more venison.

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                          • growler

                            #28
                            ive been working on trying to get the clip screws off. I've managed to get one of six of them off in an hour. With a impact screwdriver. Jesus. Lol

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                            • 2BRacing
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                              • Jan 2009
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by growler
                              ive been working on trying to get the clip screws off. I've managed to get one of six of them off in an hour. With a impact screwdriver.
                              Excuse me for asking, but did you pry the locking tabs away from the bolt heads? Next to each bolt head, there are two locking tabs that need to be moved away from the bolt heads before the bolt can turn.
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                              • growler

                                #30
                                Got them off shortly after posting that message. Yes, I had already bent the tabs back to allow room for the bolts to turn. I actually put down the impact screwdriver and just used a 10mm socket. The socket juuuust got enough room to grab the head of the bolts and boom they came out.

                                And, as everyone mentioned (I should have listened but wanted to see for myself) the spline is totally worn! I'll post the photos in a little bit when I get back to my computer. I'll start looking for a replacement.

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