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1000E axle spacers...

tkent02

tkent02

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Working on a 1980 1000E. The front wheel is off to the right a little bit. About 3mm closer to the fork on the right. This doesn't seem right.

This puts the brake discs closer to the right side of both calipers, this doesn't seem right either. I have all the spacers, the ones on both sides inside the fork caps are the same length, the parts diagrams shows the same part number for both. The suzuki shop manual shows two different ones. I don't know if the spacer on the right with the flange for the bearing the bearing is the right one.

Can someone with a 1000E tell me if the wheel sits off to the right just a little bit?


Does anyone have a 1000E front wheel off that could measure their spacers?

Thanks!
 
Are you sure the bearings have been installed in the wheel correctly?

The fact that you mention 3mm is noteworthy. If the bearings have been installed in the wrong order it could offset your wheel by almost exactly that amount. (Correct order is Left, then Right)
 
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postman_pat said:
Are you sure the bearings have been installed in the wheel correctly?

The fact that you mention 3mm is noteworthy. If the bearings have been installed in the wrong order it could offset your wheel by almost exactly that amount. (Correct order is Left, then Right)
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I don't know, the bearings were in there when I got it. You may be onto something.

I'll try another wheel on it to see how it works.

This wheel needs new bearings anyway.
 
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postman_pat said:
Are you sure the bearings have been installed in the wheel correctly?

The fact that you mention 3mm is noteworthy. If the bearings have been installed in the wrong order it could offset your wheel by almost exactly that amount. (Correct order is Left, then Right)
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Same bearings both sides and they both seat on substantial flanges. One fork leg isnt bent is it. Try loosing that side and spin the top tube 90 then 180 degrees to see if the lower fork moves in or out.
 
sharpy said:
Same bearings both sides and they both seat on substantial flanges.
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NO. They do NOT both seat on flanges. The RHS bearing "floats" 3mm above its flange. Check your workshop manual. That is why it specifies that one bearing be installed before the other.
 
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This diagram from the workshop manual.

Quote: "CAUTION: First install the wheel bearing for the left side"
 
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NO. They do NOT both seat on flanges. Check your workshop manual. That is why it specifies that one bearing be installed before the other.
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I just did and my GENUINE manual doesnt mention that but if ure doing a wheel and it has flanges one or both sides of course u do the single flange 1st
 
Well I'm working from the genuine manual too, you know.

All the Suzuki wheels that I've ever changed bearings on have two internal flanges - on both sides. But, what I'm trying to explain is that the RHS bearing does NOT seat on the RHS flange. The internal spacer holds it approx 2-3mm above the flange. The internal flange on the RHS is simply there to locate the spacer when you reassemble the wheel.

If, by some accident you install the RHS bearing FIRST, then the LHS bearing will consequently not seat on IT'S flange because of the internal spacer.

The overall effect would then be to offset the wheel to the RIGHT.

To sum up, it is not possible for both front wheel bearings to seat on the internal flanges, due to the presence of the internal spacer. One or the other must be above a flange by 2-3mm.
 
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Well I'm working from the genuine manual too, you know.

All the Suzuki wheels that I've ever changed bearings on have two internal flanges - on both sides. But, what I'm trying to explain is that the RHS bearing does NOT seat on the RHS flange. The internal spacer holds it approx 2-3mm above the flange.

If, by some accident you install the RHS bearing FIRST, then the LHS bearing will consequently not seat on IT'S flange because of the internal spacer.

The overall effect would then be to offset the wheel to the RIGHT.
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I had the same issue on my GS 1000 skunk and even the local Suzuki mechanic was not aware that there was an order to fit the wheel bearings...
 
John Kat said:
I had the same issue on my GS 1000 skunk and even the local Suzuki mechanic was not aware that there was an order to fit the wheel bearings...
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Yes, that would not surprise me in the least. You have to read the manual VERY carefully, because it's not explicitly stated in the early Suzuki manuals. Later manuals give better diagrams which show the clearance between the bearing and the flange.

Just to make things more confusing, the order for the rear wheel is reversed - i.e., RHS first, then LHS.
 
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If, by some accident you install the RHS bearing FIRST, then the LHS bearing will consequently not seat on IT'S flange because of the internal spacer.
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If u install a bearing with no flange to stop it, you would have a real good look at what was going on. just common sence. I get what ure saying and doing it there way is fine as long as the spacer between the bearing is right length.
 
sharpy said:
If u install a bearing with no flange to stop it...
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There IS a flange behind the RHS bearing to stop it, but the bearing does not seat upon it if correctly installed. That's why it's so easy to make a mistake installing the front wheel bearings unless you know the correct order.
 
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