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1992 GSX1100G project

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After a massive multi-state (well actually 2, since that is where like 90% of all shaft-drive models for sale are located :)) search and lots of help from our outstanding members, I have bought my next Suzuki.

It is a red 1992 GSX1100G. While I was looking at continuing the plan for world domination (see sig), an affordable 1100G/GK could not be found within reasonable distance. The deciding factor on the GSX-G was the factory fairing on it. This part alone is over $800 and has to come from England.

This post will be a place keeper/intro for the project. I have some pics of parts of it thanks to our member in Indiana, but will take and post some overall shots once it gets here.

I've been stockpiling some items that I know it will need, such as tires & a battery. By not being in a hurry for them, I can save some cash. This is why the transport is taking so long, but they were $150 under my original quotes, and have a good rep on uship.

I received word from the shipper that it has been picked up today and will be here in a week to 10 days.
 
The transporter emailed and they are running early. :) The GSX-G should be here in about 12 hours. Will post some pics after I get it unloaded.
 
Yes. We worked out a deal for a good bit less than he was asking.

Good for you. FWIW, the intake boot O-rings and the hardware for the GS1100G are the same and can be had from Robert Barr for cheap. There was a vendor on ebay a while back that was selling kits with the rest of the orings for the carbs.

Also, when you take the carbs apart get #10 here ahead of time. Ask me how I know.:(
http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fich...y=Motorcycles&make=SUZUKI&year=1991&fveh=2170
 
The transport service, Ten Toes Trucking, was A-1. They said they'd be here at 11, and they were early by about 5 minutes. The driver/owner was really decent, I plan on writing a good review for them on uship & here.

The bike is certainly crusty and project material. It has a good feel to it though size wise. I was expecting it to be larger & heavier.

Here are some pics:

Unloading at 11:00:04:
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Right side:
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Left side:
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Family photo #1:
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Family photo #2:
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Lots of crud in the fairing:
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Fairing off, getting ready to pull the carbs, way easier than on a Sabre:
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The bike is mostly complete. So far the biggest obstacle I see are the missing pocket covers and the inner plastic part of the fairing being cracked by one of the pockets and warped in the top center. The odometer shows 7700+ miles.

There are a few bolts missing, like one of the tank hold downs, but so far everything has come apart easily. The throttles opened and the choke cable worked (although the mounting part for the housing was cracked).

I put in my new battery, and all the lights except the left front turn signal/running light and one of the tail light bulbs work. The front brake switch is bad.

I used my pressure washer to get rid of the crud and old wasp nests in the fairing.

I thought for sure this was a repaint, as nothing I've seen shows this color being available for '92. All of the parts except the tank have good quality paint on them, and I don't see anything on places like the side covers where it was ever another color.

It looks like the plan will include (in no order):
Flush & change fluids, new filters
Adjust valves
Clean & rebuild carbs
Redo the brakes- will add SS hoses
Strip the tank & reseal/repaint
Find or build a luggage rack, add a trunk (need to haul more than 4 pounds on occasion)
Refinish exhaust headers (sandblast/ceramic black Techline)
Front brake switch
Soak cylinders w/ Marvel oil (did not try to turn it over yet)
Rebuild forks w/ progressive springs & reseal
Tires & bearings (have new)
Battery (have new)
Electrical-bulbs
Added gauges for fairing

I'm sure more will turn up as I go along.
 
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Looks like you've got a nice project there. I'd try to get it running first before putting a lot of time and money into bodywork. I'm looking forward to watching your progress.
 
I'm concentrating on the carbs & fuel system first. Good thing, as the bowls were loaded with crystallized old gas. I'm trying a lemon juice & water solution in my ultrasonic cleaner to see how it works on this stuff. I don't think they have ever been messed with, it looked like some residual marking paint on some of the heads underneath the rack. According to the shop manual I bought (1992 supplement portion), they spec out almost as they should for 49-state jetting:
Model: 26D1 ("E-03" or US model)
Main 120
Needle jet O-6
Pilot #30
Pilot air 1.25 (manual shows no listing)

I plan on replacing all fuel hoses and more than likely the pump, presuming there is an affordable aftermarket one I can adapt like I did on the Sabre.

I got some acetone to try & dissolve the old coating in the tank, and some Caswell two-part epoxy for when it is gone- presuming there are no holes.

I watched a video about a fellow unsticking an engine by pumping Marvel Mystery Oil into cylinders and am going to try a modified version of that. I have not tried to turn the engine over yet, want to soak the cylinders with Marvel first.

All indications are this bike has not been used since 1998 or so- that is when the tag that was still on it shows as expiring. Sad, it was only 6 years old or less at the time. The seat on it is in very good condition, probably the biggest surprise so far.

For the fairing, with some artistry with fiberglass, I think the damage could be repaired. The alternative is to adapt a BMW one like the fellow out west did. I'll try to salvage what I have first.

I'm also researching adding a better gauge panel, such as one from a GS750ES or 1150ES or possibly an aftermarket one. Like the GSX, both are cable driver speedometers and electronic tachs. They have more functions (oil temp added) and a gear position indicator (GPI). For posterity, the GS750ES oil temp sender is discontinued, but it looks like the VDO senders that are 10-180 ohms from 150-50 Celsius are very close to the factory specs of 13-117 for 150-60 Celsius.

The fuel gauges are the same resistance range.

The GPI would require some work to adapt since the GSX has no switch I'm aware of. Odd how a ten year older GS has better features.

EDIT for carb pics:
Bowl full of crud:
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After ultrasonic cleaning with lemon juice & water:
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The good news is the motor is not seized, and apparently has at least some compression since it shot the Marvel oil out when I turned the crank slowly with a wrench.

The bad news is there were only 3 spark plugs in it. Plus, a dumb design. If I didn't have the plug tool for the Sabre, I'd have never got them out, even a 13/16 socket I had ground down wouldn't fit.

It's clean inside the valve cover, another good sign.

I'm making headway on the carbs, but will need some small parts and some o-rings that were not in the kits I bought. They are coming out pretty clean, but there's nothing I can do with the corrosion in the float bowls. I may put them in my blast cabinet and see what some aluminum oxide does.
 
Plus, a dumb design. If I didn't have the plug tool for the Sabre, I'd have never got them out, even a 13/16 socket I had ground down wouldn't fit.

I noticed that also, luckily mine still had the original tool kit with the suzuki spark plug tool.
 
While browsing the parts listings, I saw where the toolkit was supposed to be and voila! There it was.

I got the brakes pulled today and noticed the front calipers are the same ones I have added to my GS1000 bikes. We've got great weather here so I should be able to get a good bit done in the next few days.
 
Wait a minute, are you saying the calipers on the big g will fit the old shafties?
 
Yes, if you use Salty Monk's bracket and parts along with the oversized rotors. :) He has a thread here someplace about the setup, and I have some research with part numbers as well.

It's a twin-piston caliper that's common to many Kawasakis and very few others- the GSX-G being one of them. The 1000G used a single-piston caliper.
 
I checked valves today, after making a stupid mistake of using the reference lines on the cams (like the 8-valve motor) instead of the notches. Couldn't figure out why I had 0 clearance! Then I re-read the manual and saw the cam/valve timing was related to the notches in the ends of the cams, not the lines. Most valves were within spec range or very close, had to adjust 9 total. I like not having to mess with shims! :)

Pulled the exhaust. The good news was unlike my Red GS, no exhaust bolts broke or were stripped. I noted some of the Marvel oil was dripping from under the #1 pipe. Like the rest of the bike, it is very crusty, so I'll have to see where it can be resealed or patched as needed. A good bit of rust on the header pipes, but not too much on the mufflers. I plan to sandblast the entire assembly, and coat the headers with ceramic thermal coating, and high-temp black the rest.

I'm soaking the calipers in Marvel oil so as to loosen the pistons. Hopefully I can reuse them. The pads had a good bit of wear. While I don't know if the odometer works yet, I'd say either the pads (which were stamped Tokico, so they appear to be OEM) were fairly soft or the PO used the brakes a lot in 7700 miles. Rotors are well within spec.

My list of needed parts is complete & the first & second orders are out. After doing a lot of shopping, I went with Boulevard Suzuki instead of the usual place, Powersports Plus (PSP). Boulevard has really lowered their prices, so even with tax and shipping (under $10!) for a bunch of parts, they were only $2 higher than PSP. I also like to support them since they are a member here (Ashley).

I'll be adding pictures here at some point, I'm taking them, but it's easier to do the uploading & posting at one time.
 
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A few misc pics.

Exhaust:
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Teardown progress:
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Valve cover off:
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Inner fairing (made from unobtanium). It is warped in the upper center, and cracked on the lower left, but most of the pieces are here. I've been reading on plastic repair and have some ideas.
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Later today I hope to get the front wheel and forks removed. I'm getting a set of progressive springs and will use the factory recommenced 10w oil. I have new bearings for the wheel, and a new tire also, a Bridgestone Battleaxe 023 radial, with a matching one for the rear.

The calipers are all cleaned now and ready to be honed, painted, and for new seals. My first parts order arrived so I have most of the brake hoses and fittings. The rear hose takes a weird path to the caliper. I see it can be shortened about 5" by using an angled fitting. The rear MC is tough to get to and appears to be working well and not leaking, so I'm not going to mess with it.

I've ordered the semi-rare JR9B plugs as well. I need to test the coils and wires.

I'm debating trying to replace the oil cooler & oil feed hoses, but the fittings on them are weird and would be hard to adapt short of welding AN fittings to them. I think I will stick with replacing the o-rings in them.
 
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Nice project, should be a really nice touring bike before you know it!
 
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