Nice pics and video!
What ya gonna do about the split vinyl?
PS: I thought everybody in OK was wiped out by tornadoes?
What ya gonna do about the split vinyl?
PS: I thought everybody in OK was wiped out by tornadoes?
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77 Yammy XS 750 Triple
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I'm glad somebody else around here has the common sense to understand the simple facts around what I was saying. I don't dislike Chuck at all, never met the guy, but we've had spirited conversations about bike "restorations" and "restifications" and other things old bike related over the years, and we are just of a completely different mindset. I won't spend a hundred hours restoring a bike that I can't make any money on, that to me is a no-brainer but if others think it's good, quality "therapeutic" time spent in the garage, so be it. I'm also pretty sure Chuck is not in a financial position to give money away, I have a six figure income and wouldn't even DREAM of doing a frame off restore on a bike I won't be able to give away when it's finished and I can actually AFFORD to, maybe Chuck has a rich uncle that we don't know about that's supporting his habit? I'd highly doubt that but anything is possible. It's not personal Chuck, it really isn't, but sometimes you need to look at what other people are saying and take it to heart. I've restored at least a 100 muscle bikes over the last 20 years and I've made good money on 99% of them, in fact, I built my entire dozen bike collection on profits from flipping "the right bikes". I bet if you went in that direction, you'd probably feel better about your end product and have more money to buy the next one, assuming it's not another 550 Vision or 650 Nighthawk. LOL! It's hard to argue with a guy though that just can't grasp reality. I remember having a month long argument one time with Chuck on the proposition that he can take a completely rusted out gas tank, weld, patch, plug, line it, paint it and when it's all said and done, HIS TANK is better than the NOS tank I just bought off of eBay for $500 dollars. There's nothing wrong with being frugal, and I know some tanks are impossible to find, but you are never going to convince me your "fixed" tank is better than the NOS one I paid up for, not in a million years. Make sure and let us know when this one is done Chuck, and make sure you let us know when it sells and how much you REALLY got for it. I want to see a receipt too.
Give it rest for crying out loud. Since when are hobbies supposed to make money. You do it you because you enjoy it. My wife is into quilting, she spends lots money and time on it and thoroughly enjoys it. Most them she gives away. You really have get over this Chuck thing you have.
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Would I be wrong to see this as a hobby? People spend time & money on a hobby without any thought on reward - other than personal enjoyment, and generally with minimal judgment.
Over the past 5 years I've been dabbling with retro/classic cars I've had no more than 3 at any time but have in total 5 passed through my hands. 1 was bought as a parts car to fix another, 1 ended up as a parts car when I worked out it was too far gone to save. Parts were used in the keeper cars or sold to fund the projects.
In total since 2013 I have spent ?14,723.33 (according to Google that's $19,378.02 in United States Dollars). I have put in many hours, and that's been my hobby. I have been able to use, enjoy and show the cars. Even winning a trophy along the way. That's my reward.
All have been sold now while I take a break, and I got back all of my investment plus ?849.57 profit, that works out ?169.91 ($223.63 USD) a year and doesn't take into account any payment for my time. So I won't be making a living from it but that's not why I did it. Most people buy, use and sell cars at a loss. That fact I've used these cars for my personal enjoyment basically for free sits fine with me.
I like the XS, and love the pics of the progress. Some of the comments have really surprised me, I guess we're just not all of the same mind set - that's diversity and that's fine by me. Keep up the good work Chuck!
Over the past 5 years I've been dabbling with retro/classic cars I've had no more than 3 at any time but have in total 5 passed through my hands. 1 was bought as a parts car to fix another, 1 ended up as a parts car when I worked out it was too far gone to save. Parts were used in the keeper cars or sold to fund the projects.
In total since 2013 I have spent ?14,723.33 (according to Google that's $19,378.02 in United States Dollars). I have put in many hours, and that's been my hobby. I have been able to use, enjoy and show the cars. Even winning a trophy along the way. That's my reward.
All have been sold now while I take a break, and I got back all of my investment plus ?849.57 profit, that works out ?169.91 ($223.63 USD) a year and doesn't take into account any payment for my time. So I won't be making a living from it but that's not why I did it. Most people buy, use and sell cars at a loss. That fact I've used these cars for my personal enjoyment basically for free sits fine with me.
I like the XS, and love the pics of the progress. Some of the comments have really surprised me, I guess we're just not all of the same mind set - that's diversity and that's fine by me. Keep up the good work Chuck!
Well said Sandy! It gets old listening to Tornado go on and on, crapping in Chuck's thread. Thread crapping has no business inside someone else's build thread.
Just logged in from a computer at then shop. I spilled a cup of coffee on my laptop so screen times been at a premium....for now. And just to clarify the tank thing Tornado..not ONCE did i say a tank that i rehabbed was better than an NOS for 500 bucks...NEVER SAID IT! What i DID SAY was it functions and was as sealed tight as any NOS one, so tell truths please.
As for the split seat cover,, been replaced with a it replica cover. Bike is insured and plated, new tires, and has been on a 60 miles ride so far without a hitch. soon as I get another laptop i will post pics. And no rich uncles around me, so I do what i can on my THREE digit a week paycheck.
Second gear is working and seems fine too...
As for the split seat cover,, been replaced with a it replica cover. Bike is insured and plated, new tires, and has been on a 60 miles ride so far without a hitch. soon as I get another laptop i will post pics. And no rich uncles around me, so I do what i can on my THREE digit a week paycheck.
Second gear is working and seems fine too...
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"Would I be wrong to see this as a hobby? People spend time & money on a hobby without any thought on reward - other than personal enjoyment, and generally with minimal judgment."
That's exactly how I view motorcycling. If you're into restoring bikes to get rich - good luck. How much is your time worth? I personally enjoy these types of threads. They motivate me to tackle some of my own projects.
That's exactly how I view motorcycling. If you're into restoring bikes to get rich - good luck. How much is your time worth? I personally enjoy these types of threads. They motivate me to tackle some of my own projects.
Anybody wanna say owning a boat is a thrifty sensible hobby? :encouragement:
The bigger the better? :loyal:
The bigger the better? :loyal:
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Nope. The only thing worse than letting a motorcycle sit for long periods of time is a boat.
"A boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money."
I used to own a boat. It wasn't even a big one. My 2 motorcycles cost a lot less to purchase and maintain than 1 boat. And, there are a lot more riding days than boating days.
I thought I had started a BIKE thread !!!!
Yes you did. I love the bike Chuck!
Just for laughs here's an old slide I just scanned of mine back 1978 shortly after I bought. I think yours is actually cleaner as it was just ridden quite a distance in the rain the day before. At a buddies house in Kelowna , BC. Lived in Vancouver at the time and was my only transportation thus the air horns.
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by soates50, on Flickr
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You did, a "let me see if I can restore another worthless bike and lose money on it" thread. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ban this "Tornado" clown in the above post. His money grubbing posts are so boring and tiresome.
I "reported" his post and encourage others to do the same. Dude should be given a timeout or banned for his offensive tirades.
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Why ban him, his opinions are his and I agree with most of them, maybe not quite so harshly but Chuck and Tornado have history so they can work that out. If you'd ban someone for their opinion you would have to drop a bomb on the Vortex for all the garbage that goes on there!
I know Chuck says he's not a flipper, I'll accept that at face value. I did however think he was in the motorcycle repair business or was buying a shop or something. Looks like he working inside a shop anyway. The legit MC repair shops around here get $90 an hour (and thats even if they will work on your old bike, sometimes they won't) and dealerships service center a bit higher.
I know one home shop guy who gets $50 and hour+ parts, does a reasonable good job and knows his way around the old cycles. He is ALWAYS busy, never advertises and it takes as long as it takes to get the job done. Often times your cycle might sit around for a while, even weeks, until he gets to it, he keeps good focus on one job at a time. Takes cash, works when he wants to and it makes a pretty nice side business for him.
All this to say from what I know about Chuck I think his value has to be similiar, about a $50/hr guy, due to his extensive knowledge fixing on many types of old cycles. I remember he did a charity deal with Frank fixing up and old KZ650, which I donated and shipped him a few parts for and the bike came out pretty nice as I remember. The head scratcher to me here is people don't value their own skill or time very well. Chuck had over 40 hours of TIME in this Yammy project the last I paid attention, thats not even parts. I know, I know its not all about money but if you do math and I do, that's $2000 labor in a bike that when all said and done is maybe valued at $1300-$1500 on a great day. Maybe? I don't know. maybe Chuck is very well off and doesn't need money or he's chalking it up to "work therapy" which I have seen many guys do over the years. If your keeping the bike man how many do you need? This ones not likely to gain much value if its some type of investment.
Chuck, it seems like if your going to do something this extensive you would start with a better candidate that's all. Do what you want but think of this way, would you advise someone who brought you this non-runner to be fixed to invest $1000-$2000 bucks in it?
As mentioned Chuck and Tornado have a history. Personal grudges aired in public are never nice especially seeing how it is pretty one sided at the time. Chuck can more than stick up for himself when he feels the need. Most times it just isn't worth the effort when a particular individual doesn't seem to be able to let go of it. And be honest here, how many of us aren't upside down on most of our GS projects. Maybe a few make some money but I'd say very few. As for banning ...I don't believe in it. Love your projects and ingenuity Chuck, don't believe in some of it but it's all good.
The only "history" I've witnessed between chuck and Tornado is Tornado bashing chuck again and again. He's a belittling bully that shouldn't be allowed to carry on here without a swift kick in the aZZ and taught to correct his behavior or get out.
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In my view, the fact Chuck seems able to rise above it makes him go up in my estimation. The fact that Tornado seems to have some sort of a chip on his shoulder, and has to resort to attempted mockery just makes him look a fool and wastes bandwidth.
Other than that, you all should do what you want with your old bikes. I like to see stuff come back from the dead, learn new skills, de-stress, get out from under the wife's feet etc. Others only see profit. No problem either way.
Other than that, you all should do what you want with your old bikes. I like to see stuff come back from the dead, learn new skills, de-stress, get out from under the wife's feet etc. Others only see profit. No problem either way.
The only person with a problem with John Smith is John Smith. If anyone has skills and the gumption to take what would t parts or a full bike that would otherwise be considered "too far gone" seems to rub him the wrong way. AND if you dont have his ( much bragged upon ) 6 digit income........well then god forbid you get look at down his nose !!!