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You shafty guys can just go away now, nothing to see here, move on.


Now that we got those guys out of the way... I'm working on an automatic chain oiler design. Similar to the ones you can find online for $150+, most notably the Scott Oiler. It's starting to come together, but haven't taken any pics yet. The part I love the most is the reservoir. I took the brake torque arm off, sealed up a couple holes on the ends, drilled a hole for the exit tube, and welded up a small filler tube. So the reservoir takes up 0 room, and looks pretty much stock to the untrained eye. It also will hold 300~400cc of oil I think, though I haven't measured it for an exact quanity. From there it will go thru a electric solenoid valve, and then a needle valve, before going to a bracket that clamps to the swing arm, and will hold the oil tube. Right now, it's a single oil tube, but I may make it a dual feed that puts oil on the chain ring just before hitting the chain. Centrifugal force will take care of the rest.

I'll be finishing up the initial build of this shortly, and then testing it out, I ride a bit over 400mi per week, in all sorts of conditions, so I should be able to test it, and refine it pretty quickly.

I'm also wondering if there is any interest in buying something like this, the current one I'm working on is for an 1100, but changing the dimentions of the torque arm would be all that's needed to adapt to another bike. The only requirement is that the torque arm be above the swing arm, not below. With the exception of drum brake bikes, and custom setups, I think above is the stock location for GSs. When I finish it up, I'll post some pics.
 
How do you monitor the oil level so you'll know when to add more? custom site glass in the arm or just guestimating the need from time to time?

Nice idea!
 
For now, I'm going the guestimate route, if my calcs are right, if I top it off once a month I'll be fine. I've read that a 400cc reservoir on the scott oiler will last 4,000+ miles.
 
Thats pretty cool! I'm considering something like this on my Strom. There's plenty of room to put a resevoir under the rack.

I'm gonna use either ATF or chainsaw oil. Both of these prevent the scungy buildup on your chain....
 
I use Maxima Chain Wax :mrgreen:

Cool idea Luke. Be sure to patent it!
 
HiSPL said:
Thats pretty cool! I'm considering something like this on my Strom. There's plenty of room to put a resevoir under the rack.

I'm gonna use either ATF or chainsaw oil. Both of these prevent the scungy buildup on your chain....

Where can I find the instructions on that oiler? I like it.
 
Bingo!

Bingo!

OK boys! I did it!

I used an old rear brake fluid revervoir and bolted it under the seat, (drill a small breather hole in the lid). Plastic tubing to a needle valve zap-strapped to the frame. Tubing along the swing arm to an old steel brake line off a dead car. Routed through the axle hole and aimed at the chain/sprocket. Pinched/crimped the brake line to regulate the flow to 1 drop every 30 seconds, (Takes some tinkering).
Works awesome, so far...

Total cost: $6.75 CAN

The valve doesn't stop the drip altogether, but it slows it enough that you won't lose your supply overnight.

Anyone wants pics I'll start a new thread. Let me know.
 
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brveagle said:
Hmm... what do u do when you're not moving... ?

Take confidence that your chain is still being oiled.

I've been watching this thread cause I'm interested in the whole idea, as I'll probably be running a chain sooner or later (even though I've been shafted and love it). Some pics would be nice. I do have a CM400A that might get a mod like this.
 
It would'nt be too difficult to install a manual shut-off valve somewhere in-line for this system, to be turned on as needed. Otherwise, you are sure to leave oil stains everywhere you park for more than a few minutes....'hardley' typical of a GS! ;)

Tony.
 
How about a vacuum or solenoid-operated valve?

Something ripped from a junk washing machine would be in the proper spirit of this endeavor...
 
bwringer said:
Something ripped from a junk washing machine would be in the proper spirit of this endeavor...

I love that sentiment, Brian (but then I AM "Inspector Gadget" to my friends)!!
 
My 66 Triumph had an automatic chain oiler. Small drip tube that fed from the oil pump. Slung oil everywhere. Now days I have O ringed chains on everything except the drag bike. Life is much simpler.
 
Billyboy said:
OK boys! I did it!

I used an old rear brake fluid revervoir and bolted it under the seat, (drill a small breather hole in the lid). Plastic tubing to a needle valve zap-strapped to the frame. Tubing along the swing arm to an old steel brake line off a dead car. Routed through the axle hole and aimed at the chain/sprocket. Pinched/crimped the brake line to regulate the flow to 1 drop every 30 seconds, (Takes some tinkering).
Works awesome, so far...

Total cost: $6.75 CAN

The valve doesn't stop the drip altogether, but it slows it enough that you won't lose your supply overnight.

Anyone wants pics I'll start a new thread. Let me know.

Make a plug for the vent hole. It may not stop it but will slow it down while not riding/parked.
 
lecroy said:
My 66 Triumph had an automatic chain oiler. Small drip tube that fed from the oil pump. Slung oil everywhere. Now days I have O ringed chains on everything except the drag bike. Life is much simpler.

And use chain wax. Works better than oil, attracts less dirt and makes no mess. If I did this idea here I would simply be creating an oil leak on purpose :lol:

I think it is a great idea for a dirt bike though.

Are you guys running non-o0ring chains that you like to use oil on them?
 
Hoomgar said:
And use chain wax. Works better than oil, attracts less dirt and makes no mess. If I did this idea here I would simply be creating an oil leak on purpose :lol:

I think it is a great idea for a dirt bike though.

Are you guys running non-o0ring chains that you like to use oil on them?


Nope, I commute rain or shine all summer about 90 miles a day. I'm trying to get as many miles as possible on a chain, and keeping it well lubed is the best way that I know to do that. It's the rain that messes up the chain, as it has all the lube washed off, and is replaced with dirty water, grinding into the o-rings. If I can get the flow just right, the mess shouldn't be an issue, it's only if I flow too much oil that it will fly off everywhere, and with a constant flow of oil, the chain should stay lubed even in the rain. I also like the idea of filling a reservoir and being done. Instead of spraying down the chain after every ride.

Out of curiousity, how many miles do you get off a chain Hoom?

As far as stopping the oil flow, just use a solenoid valve.
 
lhanscom said:
I also like the idea of filling a reservoir and being done. Instead of spraying down the chain after every ride.

Out of curiousity, how many miles do you get off a chain Hoom?

Positively worth it. Anything that makes more ride time and less tinker time is a worthy idea.

A good o-ring chain and sprocket usually goes a few years for me (approx 20k). I always seem to end up either selling bikes and/or replacing for some other reason long before they wear out. I was using standard chains for a while because I kept blowing out o-ring chains until I learned that the issue was me making the chains to tight and stretching them prematurely. Also on this note (since you asked) I was using chain lube and the dealer turned me onto using chain wax instead of oils. He said it will help them last way longer. It appears he was very right. But most likely because I am not the most faithful maintenance man. Again, making this a very good looking idea. You come up with an oiler that works well and doesn't make a mess and I am telling you, patent your idea!

I am watching this thread ;)
 
:-D
brveagle said:
Hmm... what do u do when you're not moving... ?

HAHA! I mark my territory! I shut the valve, but the oil below the valve still drips out. I need a soup can. lol.
 
axminster.com has drip feeders that are adjustable and there are some more on ebay. #7573334639
 
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