BUILDING AN I.C.B.M. KATANA 1100

[rosco15]

I was wondering about that clutch cover. I wonder what putting it in the bead blasting cabinet and hitting it with the glass media would do. I would like it to look a little better, but there is no way i'm gonna spend the time on mine you did.

 

[Guest]

Ryan

glass beading won't help much. It will make it brighter but won't take off any of the casting marks or the roughness. I had asked the coater/cleaner about that too.

I used a dremel with 60 and 120 grit sanding barrels follwed by 100/220/600 paper and block, a 3m fine pad then a final with medal polish. It is work but it isn't a show polish. I wanted it to match my cam links.

 

[Guest]

Well Tomorrow is Chirstmas again.....

I am picking up a shipment of misc. parts from bikebandit, a set of LED shorty signals and the bandit 1200 swingarm.

I will be letting yall know how easy a mod the swing is......or NOT.

 

[Guest]

HEY, HEY, HEY........It fits!!!!!

A bit of moding to do but will work great. So all you kat owners out there, This is a great upgrade for a swingarm. (2002 bandit 1200) Pictures and details to follow.

WaaaaaaaHooooooo. Glad I didn't spend that 700.00 on the other arm.

 

[Addy Leung]

Hi Katman,
Just want to know that dose it need to modify or relocate the rear brake cylinder unit as the swing arm may be hit this cylinder unit when it swing?
Addy

 

[Guest]

OK I have done some measuring...

The bandit arm is 220mm @ the pivot point. The GS swing is 220mm at the pivot point without the end caps so they are identical. The GS has to much lip on the end caps but they can be trimmed and use them for the bandit arm (they fit) That will make the arm exactly the same size as the stock arm.....how nice is that. I am making an inner bush pics to follow with a 3mm colar inplace of the stock gs end caps and thrust washers.

Problem two....The rear brake return spring nub hits the arm so it needs to be cut off and the return spring attachment relocated (big deal...not a problem) The stopper pad welded to the frame used to adjust peddle height and to stop the peddle is way too long. It needs to be trimmed only not removed. The rotating brake mechanism that the rear brake peddle turns needs to be altered and the frame mounting hole it slides through needs to be ground a couple of mm. This would require a washer between the brake peddle itself and the frame. I think a couple of mm will do it.

The brake plunger arm I don't think will interfere with the arm but if it does there is room to space it out with a couple of washers if at all.

This is only a problem with the katana. With the 1100E the peg mounts come off and a set of rear sets can be mounted which makes it an even better aternative for them.

shock mounts are straight foreward. all I have to decide is what kinf of mounts...do I go modern and use an "EYE' mount or go stock with the "CLEVIS" mount. The eye mount gives me more selection.

On the other end....the bandit 1200 arm is 253mm...the stock gs1100 arm is 260mm..BUT.. the GS arm itself is narrower. If the fork legs themselves came all the way back to the axle it would be narrower than the bandit arm. also the gs arm has two chain adjusters that are 3.25mm each which is 6.5mm narrower and makes the two arms 1/2mm out from being the same because the bandit arm has ouside adjusters.

The bandit pivot bolt is 20mm..The GS is 16mm..so I can do two things..

1. bore 20mm holes into my frame but I have to get a longer bolt because the bandit bolt is to short...or..

2. sleeve the bandit arm down to 16mm..I think I will do that.

I will get some shots of what I am talking about and post them on my other site with a link so anyone who cares to can check them out.

This arm looks killer and is perfect for my armless brake caliper mod I am going to do and an easy arm to brace.

Oh..one other thing. The mono shock shaft mounting area on the arm needs to be ground/cut off/down because it hits the battery box.

Sounds like a lot but after what I have had to do so far on this project it is a bolt on.

 

[RacingJake]

When i used the GSXR arm I was able to swap the pivot bearings with GS one's.

Good luck

 

[Guest]

I can do that too with the bandit but the gs's are too short and don't have the 3.4mm collar on them. It was close though.

Thanks Jake.

 

[Guest]

CORRECTION,

the bandit arm is 7mm narrower than the GS .... BUT.... I neglected to factor in the (2) 3.5mm chain adjusters on the GS swing. The bandit arm does not have them so they are virtually identical.

 

[RacingJake]

Hey Rob on your next future project you got to try one of these's.

Can you say Fun, Fun, Fun or Fast, Fast, Fast

 

[Guest]

yeahhhhh baby,

IT'S IN the future. I have a nice motor sitting here that is crying out to me.....but I must be strong....aaahhhhahahahahaahah

 

[Guest]

Here is a pic of what I am doing for the bushing down of the bandit swingarm.

Picture is curtacy of a fellow kat freak in the uk who had the idea which is far better than mine.

I re-measured the pivot and it came to 226mm from end to end not the 225 I had originally stated.

 

[Guest]

the arm is in...

the inside busings I had made work perfect with a 3mm collar which brings total pivot length to 226mm. There were some minor mods needed for clearance but much easier than I expected.

Just have to cut off the mono shock mount cause it hits the battery box, no biggie, and weld on some shock mounts and I am good to go. Then bracing and polish and it's done.

 

[RacingJake]

Use a sawalls much faster than a hacksaw plus you won't skin your knuckle's. I always wander why there is a K in nuckle.

 

[Hap Call]

Use a sawalls much faster than a hacksaw plus you won't skin your knuckle's. I always wander why there is a K in nuckle.

That's just the way some nucklehead spelled it.... :wink:

Hap

 

[Guest]

I am going to use a cut off disc so I can burn a whole in the other side of my jacket......ahahahahhahahaha

 

[Guest]

I have got the swingarm in the frame. I had the bushings made with a collar to match the stock ones and with the thickness needed to bring them to a perfect fit inside the frame. I thought it would be easier than using washers. I hated fitting the socker in and the caps falling off and you guys no the drill.

things are tight on the brake side but it fits nice. just need to weld on some shock mounts and good to go.

I will deal with the bracing later.

oh yeh, of course I had cut the chain (my new chain) for the stock swing and of course the bandit swing is longer so the chain is too short...ahahahahahah, gotta laugh. I cut it a week before I got this swingarm.

 

[Hoomgar]

Doh! #-o

I am sure you can sell it like it is. Someone can use it somewhere.

Don't cut it again, because no matter how many times you cut it it is still going to be too short :lol:

 

[GER144]

Katman, are those bushings made of brass?

 

[Guest]

they are bronze