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can i convert a 8 valve to a 16 valve 1100

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just woundering if i can put a 16 valve head on my 82 gs1100g
thanks
 
Four cylinder studs by the cam chain tunnel are in the wrong place.

Just use the complete 16 valve motor.

Jay
 
Big Jay said:
Four cylinder studs by the cam chain tunnel are in the wrong place.

Just use the complete 16 valve motor.

Jay
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Jay, are you saying to use the top end of the 16V motor? The 11000G is a shaft drive and the 16V is chain drive as you know...can the top ends be switched?

Hap
 
Can is the operative word here. It could be done and someone on this list will tell you how, but rest assured it is impractical and cost prohibitive. It is not a reasonable action to take.
 
Tarbash 27 said:
Why would you want to do this in the first place?
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This happens all the time. People get an 850G or 1000G or 1100G, thinking, "Oh, boy, I got myself a liter (or almost liter) bike, so now I can keep up with the guys who have Wings, or Concours, or FJR's, or Beemers, sports tourers..."

Then they realize the 8-valve shafties don't have the power to keep up with the modern big boys. So, they want to turn the mildly tuned, reliable, easy-going 8-valver, whose heritage goes back 30+ years, into a hotter bike. So they think turning the 8-valve shaftie into a 16-valve chainy is the hot ticket.

Wrong. These guys should either live with the limitations of their "G" bikes, which are really bigger versions of the GS750's from 1976 -- or else get themselves more modern motorcycles.

I ride with a group of more modern bikes. Ordinarily my GK does well; it's on uphill mountain roads, however, that I must wind up the rpm's in order to keep up with the other guys. Even if I had the horsepower, the frame and brakes of my GK couldn't handle the power needed to keep up with a Gold Wing or an FJR or the old or new Concours.

We've had recent threads where this subject has been brought up. It's about guys who don't understand the nature of our 1970's bikes and wish they could turn them into something they can't be.
 
but turning them into a modded cafe racer is ok... right????...lol???
 
Go the cheap route and just buy a brand new Yamaha FJR.
 
I think what everyone is saying, perhaps a little harshly, is that possible or not it isn't practical from a financial standpoint. If you just sell your bike and find yourself a decent deal on a 16 valver it will cost you a lot less money and save you a lot of time. Plus you wont have to worry about reliability and maintenance issues on a one-off machine.
 
Well i got some feedback on that 1. I know what I bought, a cruiser i can drive on the highway. I've never been in a Suzuki engine and just wanted to know if it was a bolt on to make the bike a little more fun. I wont bother changing motors (I like the shaft drive) I'll just add a Vince & Hines exhaust, jet kit and pods. How are pods in the rain? Do they make Cams for the 8valvers?
 
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Why don't you do yourself a favor first. Why not go ride the bike?
How many miles have you put on it?
What are you comparing this bike to, memories of a KZ550 you owned 10 years ago? Sorry, your memories are faster than your KZ was in reality.

PS it's not 'Vince' it's Vance.
 
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Jimcor is right. Just ride it and forget about trying to mess up an otherwise perfectly good motorcycle. Keep it stock and it will take you places for years to come. Mess with it and you'll have reliability problems galore.

A V & H is OK, but only if the stock exhaust falls apart. Otherwise, keep the stock exhaust, airbox, etc.

Just ride the big shaftie, leave it be, don't mess with it, and enjoy it.
 
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ya i haven't ridden it. i did ride it and then found out it had a dead cylinder. I'm going by its a 545lb bike with 92 to 98hp. the 16 valve was 111hp or so iv read. i would like to add some more power to make the gs a little more fun sense a 98 hp 545 lb shaft driven bike w/ a 225lb rider loses a little power. i said the gs was down on power because some thing was wrong and my kz550 was faster then the gs was to give you a idea of how much power was lost. The 550 wasn't fast but faster then a 1100 running on 3 cylinders. i just want to add some more power to gain back the power lost due to the bikes weight, my fat ass and shaft drive.
a simple no u cant practically convert your 8valve to a 16valve would have answered my question. not to offend any one that gave a funny answer. like buy a machine shop
ya im going to just ride it but there is a chance i mite need to rebuild the motor(running on 3 cylinders)
i guess the add ons aren't worth it then if I'm going to have reliability issues.
thanks
 
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82gs1100 said:
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ya im going to just ride it but there is a chance i mite need to rebuild the motor(running on 3 cylinders)
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thanks
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Man, slow down. Deep breaths and relax, mellow out. OK. No more Red Bull and espresso shooters for you today. Just because your bike is running on 3 jugs doesn't mean you're going to have to rebuild the motor.

One step at a time. Simplest and most basic stuff gets checked first and on and on.

Motor rebuilds, Hop up heads, Cams, Pipes, Pods...Is your battery charged? Have you checked spark plug caps and wires? Coils? Wiring harness?

SLOW DOWN!!!

Another Goofball in another thread wanted to know what was the number one thing to add to his bike to make it faster. The answer should have been...NOTHING. Just make sure everything was up to original specifications and in proper working order, time and tune. You can't go faster than original till you know how fast original is. Keeping a 25 year old bike in spec and tune is work enough for anyone. After you achieve that, then talk about performance, but I'll bet an 1100 pumping out a good 90 horse at the crank will be plenty.
 
YOur dead cylinder is probably a maladjusted valve. If you check the valve clearances your bound to find a valve that is not adjusted.

2 Valve GS engines go forever. 60K is possible on that engine easily. But the valves have shims that need to be checked ever 15K after the breakin. There have been a few members on this site that had little or no compression and after adjusting the valves the bike ran like a scalded dog.

95 HP on 550lbs is not really slow, unless your drag racing and all that. Name a car with a 5.5 lbs/hp ratio Even with you on it at 800 lbs thats 8lbs a horse. How fast do you want to go anyway?
 
Then again it has such a great stock cylinder head that a 1200cc kit would really wake it up
Jay
 
i thought a valve adjustment mite be nessasary. ill see what i got when its running properly. would the valves need adjusting after 8400 miles?
maby just a carb rebuild. when this motor needs a rebuild ill go big.
 
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