Center stand mind game

[Rob S.]

Apparently Harleys don't qualify as "modern-era", but I have not seen a centerstand on ANY Harley, regardless of year.

Forgot about them.

When idling the engine from a cold start, with the bike on the lateral peg, the right hand carter bearings are going to starve
of oil, when they need it most...

I've read something like that. One of the reasons I keep a brick under the side stand at home (I don't take the brick with me).

Harley's aside, first without a center stand? GSX-R?

 

[Lorenzo]

Rg500 ....??

for the brick, suit yourself... unless it's forbidden by the law; just imagine in case you carry a pillion... conspiracy to carry an offensive implement...

In that case, do not conceal it...!!

 

[dorkburger]

I wouldnt be without one. When in the garage the kids like to sit on the bike. I wont let them near if its on the sidestand for fear of it tipping over. And maintenance is easier. Last year when I picked up a screw in the rear tire while out of state, the parking lot repair would have been markedly more difficult.

 

[Rob S.]

...conspiracy to carry an offensive implement...

In that case, do not conceal it...!!

If I wanted to carry a weapon for cars, I would use the old Angel's trick of filling a glass baby food jar with black paint. Adjust a cager's attitude by tossing in at their windshield.

And believe me, I have thought about it.

 

[Rob S.]

Rg500 ....??

Good answer! Predates the GSX-R by about a year, right?

 

[Brendan W]

Not sure what you are calling "carter bearings" (I realize there is a language difference), but all the bearings are fed by pressurized oil, so there is no starvation.

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In France 'carter' would be the crankcase.

 

[Lorenzo]

Good answer! Predates the GSX-R by about a year, right?

I think them both came out the same year (1985)

 

[Lorenzo]

In France 'carter' would be the crankcase.

Dunno 'bout "les frogs" but if you feed --> carter motore <-- into google and look for the images result, you will see what I meant

 

[Lorenzo]

Not sure what you are calling "carter bearings" (I realize there is a language difference), but all the bearings are fed by pressurized oil, so there is no starvation.

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Q
Steve, same invitation (google) as above.
What you say might be certainly right, I will have to investigate more, into the matter, to offer an answer which could rise to "good policy" status;
In actual fact I was speaking from my personal experience, listening to a thicking sound, while idling with bike on sidestand, and the noise disappearing when putting the machine on the vertical.
Further comments on the issue are welcomed.

 

[Steve]

In actual fact I was speaking from my personal experience, listening to a thicking sound, while idling with bike on sidestand, and the noise disappearing when putting the machine on the vertical.
Further comments on the issue are welcomed.

Does this noise sound continuously or does it happen for a few seconds, then go away for a few seconds, then return?

If this issue can be repeated, please try something: leave the bike on the sidestand, increase the engine speed to about 1500 RPM, maybe a little more. If the sound goes away, it might be what we call "cam walk". The thrust bearings on the cams can wear a bit, allowing the cam to "walk" sideways, making a little noise in the process. With increased engine speed, the increased tension on the cam chain pulls the cam to the center, eliminating the noise. Placing the bike in a vertical position can have the same effect.

If that is your noise, there is no need to worry about it. It will never get better, but it also never seems to get any worse. My wife's bike made that noise when we got it, it still makes it now. That was 11 years and about 22,000 miles ago.

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[chuck hahn]

Rob...pocket full of buckshot. Hand full over the shoulder and the windshield and possibly radiator are gone. Now that is if you really want to be the king azzhole of the road...LOL

 

[Lorenzo]

The bike is off the pipes right now, but I will run this test ASAP;
The noise if on both on-choke, so 2000+ RPM, and off the choke I.E. 1100 RPM; even when bike is warm where I put it on the sidestand with engine on.

By the way, speaking of pipes, what kind of gasket do you use, the squash-type copper one:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/COPPER-EXHAUST-GASKETS-SUZUKI-GS750-GS850-GS1000-set-of-4-/300605023712

or this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/suzuki-gs...fler-header-/351341152378?hash=item51cd90887a
my bike is currently missing them, and I have got some fouling off #2 header;

Thanks

 

[jsandidge]

The bike is off the pipes right now, but I will run this test ASAP;
The noise if on both on-choke, so 2000+ RPM, and off the choke I.E. 1100 RPM; even when bike is warm where I put it on the sidestand with engine on.

By the way, speaking of pipes, what kind of gasket do you use, the squash-type copper one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-G...pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item51c91f2b6d

or this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-G...pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item51c91f2b6d

my bike is currently missing them, and I have got some fouling off #2 header;

Thanks

Aren't both of those gakets the same?

 

[Lorenzo]

yes!! edited

 

[jsandidge]

The bike is off the pipes right now, but I will run this test ASAP;
The noise if on both on-choke, so 2000+ RPM, and off the choke I.E. 1100 RPM; even when bike is warm where I put it on the sidestand with engine on.

By the way, speaking of pipes, what kind of gasket do you use, the squash-type copper one:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/COPPER-EXHAUST-GASKETS-SUZUKI-GS750-GS850-GS1000-set-of-4-/300605023712

or this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/suzuki-gs...fler-header-/351341152378?hash=item51cd90887a
my bike is currently missing them, and I have got some fouling off #2 header;

Thanks

The second one is OEM type, that's what I used. I thought my originals were missing too, but they were stuck in there. Took some work to get them out.