Coils for my 1982 GS850G

[legaleli]

I started off this query on another page asking about the best place to buy coils online... and Macmatic suggested I should consider buying coils designed for another Suzuki (as long as I wasn't opposed to non-stock restoration - and I am totally ok with that).

I am moving my question to the technical area! I want to buy coils NEW, mainly because they are more likely to work if they are new, and our riding season in Newfoundland is so short that a breakdown can mean we're off our bikes for an entire season.

So my question is: what are the best coils I can buy for my 1982 GS850G? I don't want to do any frame mods, and I have limited tools (the basics but no welding tools).

If a hotter spark means better, and I can only get that with some minor modifications, I would give it a try! Also, I am not looking to save 20 bucks or something like that... if there is 100 bucks in the swing that's a different matter, but I want to buy something that fits (and works ).

 

[Guest]

Dynas are your best bet. Any dealer should be able to order them for you. Try the Motovan catalog.

www.dynaonline.com

Paul

 

[Guest]

Lot's of members here use dyna coils. You want the green (3.0 ohm) ones for your bike. You will need wires to go with them, I use the dyna wires as well.

Z1 Enterprises is a good place to get them:

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=210

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=208

 

[Guest]

If ya wanna just spend money on something use it for something you really need. Not much talk of coils taking a dump around here.

 

[legaleli]

Yeah but....

Yeah but....

If ya wanna just spend money on something use it for something you really need. Not much talk of coils taking a dump around here.

The issue isn't in the coil itself, but the wires are horribly cracked up and one cap is cracked in half (shipping accident). These are factory originals I think so the wires, caps, and coils are one unit... replace one thing... replace it all.

 

[legaleli]

lot's of members here use dyna coils. You want the green (3.0 ohm) ones for your bike. You will need wires to go with them, i use the dyna wires as well.

Z1 enterprises is a good place to get them:

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?id=210

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?id=208

Thank you! I will have a look at these and order up... this site rocks.

 

[jhillier449]

Coils

Coils

I have a spare set to try if you just want to get your bike running until you get your new ones. I'm in St. John's.

 

[legaleli]

Another townie...

Another townie...

I have a spare set to try if you just want to get your bike running until you get your new ones. I'm in St. John's.

Hey man thank you very much for your offer! I don't think I'll need to take you up on it right now, as I am not going to do any real work on the bike for another two or three weeks.

That said, Ill keep you in mind for later - I think you are resurrecting a 1980 GS1000 right?

 

[rustybronco]

The issue isn't in the coil itself, but the wires are horribly cracked up and one cap is cracked in half (shipping accident). These are factory originals I think so the wires, caps, and coils are one unit... replace one thing... replace it all.

I understand you want to buy new coils. but do you know you can remove the epoxy holding in the plug wires, purchase new coil wire stock from an auto parts or an agricultural dealer (tractor) and replace the spark plug boots with new ones obtained from Z1?

 

[legaleli]

Oops...

Oops...

I understand you want to buy new coils. but do you know you can remove the epoxy holding in the plug wires, purchase new coil wire stock from an auto parts or an agricultural dealer (tractor) and replace the spark plug boots with new ones obtained from Z1?

You know... ahem... ahhhh.... that WOULD have worked BEFORE I tried to remove the wires on my own without asking this site for help...

Oh well... I'm sure I'll end up with a better spark in any event now... and it only cost me more than it should have!

Next time I'll post before I leap.

 

[jhillier449]

Coils

Coils

I have a 1980 GS1000G I did a lot of work on over the winter, I have put on a couple hundred km already. If you need a hand with anything let me know. I'm no expert but I do all my own work, carbs are fun.. Just send me a PM.

 

[Billy Ricks]

Dyna coils aren't really all that. You won't notice a dime's worth of difference in the way your bike runs vs stock coils. I bought a set of Dynas when my bike was a few years old. Within a year one of them crapped out. Now I have a set of coils from a GSX-R before they went to coil packs on each spark plug. I think I gave my original coils to someone from the forum years ago that needed a set. Dynas are just a feel good thing for people that ride the street. Kind of like running premium even though you don't need it. You might notice the difference on a built engine but not stock.

 

[bwringer]

My bike's been wearing Dyna coils for about ten years. I wasn't looking for any improvement in the way the bike runs -- I'm fully aware that "hotter spark" is just snake oil.

What I was looking for -- and have gotten -- from the Dyna coils was the simple ability to replace the dang wires. My bike is currently wearing half a set of yellow universal Accel wires for a V-8. I found them on clearance at the auto parts store for $10 one day.

 

[legaleli]

Stock costs more...

Stock costs more...

Dyna coils aren't really all that. You won't notice a dime's worth of difference in the way your bike runs vs stock coils. I bought a set of Dynas when my bike was a few years old. Within a year one of them crapped out. Now I have a set of coils from a GSX-R before they went to coil packs on each spark plug. I think I gave my original coils to someone from the forum years ago that needed a set. Dynas are just a feel good thing for people that ride the street. Kind of like running premium even though you don't need it. You might notice the difference on a built engine but not stock.

OEM is so much more money than the Dyna coils... I ordered the Dynas, + wires and caps, including fast shipping for 170 bucks - it remains to be seen what reaming I will get from Customs...

BUT the same set-up OEM locally is $430, and if I order from Bike Bandit it's $270 plus shipping (about $30) for a total of $300.

So "hotter spark" or not... as long as they hold up...

Now on to the 4-1 exhaust!

 

[Steve]

... Now on to the 4-1 exhaust!

You realize that you are opening another can of worms? :-k

How about the intake side? You sticking with the stock airbox or going with individual pod filters?

I ask these because each situation requires different jetting in the carbs. Even changing just the exhaust system will require jetting changes. Chaning to pods will require different jetting. If you do both, yep, even more changes. Best to have your end goal in mind so you don't have to keep spending money on all the intermittent steps.

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[legaleli]

Cutting down on Carbs...

Cutting down on Carbs...

You realize that you are opening another can of worms? :-k

How about the intake side? You sticking with the stock airbox or going with individual pod filters?

I ask these because each situation requires different jetting in the carbs. Even changing just the exhaust system will require jetting changes. Chaning to pods will require different jetting. If you do both, yep, even more changes. Best to have your end goal in mind so you don't have to keep spending money on all the intermittent steps.

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How hard can that be... what... like 15 minutes right (awkward silence)?

I have no idea how to adjust the jets in carburetors... but as long as it's an ADJUSTMENT and not a REPLACEMENT... maybe I'm up for the task. And then... I've got this site right?

Where do I go to make a donation?

 

[Griffin]

How hard can that be... what... like 15 minutes right (awkward silence)?

I have no idea how to adjust the jets in carburetors... but as long as it's an ADJUSTMENT and not a REPLACEMENT... maybe I'm up for the task. And then... I've got this site right?

Where do I go to make a donation?

Uhh....no. You will have to change out jets and mess with the needle heights and do all kinds of fiddling to get your carbs adjusted after changing the exhaust and/or intake configuration.

If you're worried about riding more and working on the bike less, stick with your stock setup.

 

[Guest]

OEM is so much more money than the Dyna coils... I ordered the Dynas, + wires and caps, including fast shipping for 170 bucks - it remains to be seen what reaming I will get from Customs...
!

Ouch!!
You got money to blow! You spent about 150 bux more than you needed to.

Lemme know when you need to get rid of some more of that stuff(money) I'll send ya my paypal address.

 

[Guest]

How hard can that be... what... like 15 minutes right (awkward silence)?

QUOTE]

Go for it. Just dont forget to ask questions when you're done

 

[Macmatic]

While you're at it check the voltage at your coils. You should have battery voltage minus maybe 1 volt. So 11.5 or so at the coils. If you have much less than that you should consider doing the Coil Relay Mod.

There are many threads on the CRM but in short you use a relay and fuse to take power directly from the battery to the coils when the ignition is switched on. That would be your hotter spark right there.

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