crappy fix?

[timebombprod]

ever since i reinstalled my oil pan after giving it a good clean, oil has been leaking from the pan, assuming its from old gasket i have to take it back apart and get the rest of the gunk off and hoping i didnt ruin my new gasket and reuse it. now thinking of d.i.y fixing or just crappy fixing in this matter, what if the oil was drained, the outside of the oil pan was cleaned off and dried, and then sealant was put around the indent between the two metal pieces and the gasket. this raises one big question for me,(really two).

1) what sealant would be heat resistant enough to not melt off

2) how crappy/lazy of a fix is that.

dont know if anyone on here knows the term "*@%^$*@%^$*@%^$*@%^$box" but it means junky old cool fast piece of machinery, so a fast POS, my bikes not a POS i dont think, but i dont mind one *@%^$*@%^$*@%^$*@%^$box type fix on it.


the term is "sH!Tbox"

 

[Rob S.]

A little unclear if you did use a brand new, OEM Suzuki gasket or not, but I'm very familiar with getting loud. Let's just say that His name gets taken in vain when I'm out of direct line-of-sight of other people.

A sealant when the manual doesn't call for one? #@%!=?#@*&!!!

 

[timebombprod]

A little unclear if you did use a brand new, OEM Suzuki gasket or not, but I'm very familiar with getting loud. Let's just say that His name gets taken in vain when I'm out of direct line-of-sight of other people.

A sealant when the manual doesn't call for one? #@%!=?#@*&!!!

its on oem gasket, i just messed up and theres still old gasket on there. i have no clue what to use to get it off all the way is there anything i could scrub the old gasket off with that wouldnt damage the metal?

and im just being lazy about it

 

[Guest]

I don't want to be rude, but yeah, you're being lazy. All the old gasket has to come off without damaging the underlying metal.

I normally use a semi-blunt chisel knife, and follow that with some medium grade wet and dry. I've heard of people using razors blades or Stanley blades, that will work fine as long as you're careful. There are proprietary gasket removers available - spray or aerosol format? I'm not sure what you might have available to you, so I'll let someone else comment on that.

Main thing is, be patient. Old gasket remains will come off eventually. Try too hard, and you're looking at sourcing replacement parts.

 

[timebombprod]

I don't want to be rude, but yeah, you're being lazy.

you're not being rude i said it myself lol.

patience is key and ive said that to myself before but at the same time since im young ill still try to rush it anyways. this would've probably been the only thing rushed but still a d.i.y fix isn't what its supposed to be even if it works.

 

[Guest]

cleaning those old gaskets off is often the most difficult, and the most important, part of the job. Be very careful not to injure the surfaces. Some, me included, find that a good SHARP wood chisel works well. Others have used razor blades, plastic scrapers, abrasive (mildly) disks, etc.

 

[timebombprod]

cleaning those old gaskets off is often the most difficult, and the most important, part of the job. Be very careful not to injure the surfaces. Some, me included, find that a good SHARP wood chisel works well. Others have used razor blades, plastic scrapers, abrasive (mildly) disks, etc.

if the surface were to be injured what do you do, haven't tried yet but curious

 

[LAB3]

if the surface were to be injured what do you do, haven't tried yet but curious

Use more gasket sealer.

If you use a razor you're not going to be able to get enough force on it to cause much more than a scratch. The harder and heavier your scraper the better chance of doing some real damage.

 

[Guest]

I used a hard plastic razor blade with a bit of lubricant - a few drops of oil to remove the head gasket on my Ranger. Followed with a good scuffing with a medium abrasive scotchbrite pad on a sanding block.

 

[cowboyup3371]

Lightly run the scraper across the surface; as long as you aren’t digging in you’ll be ok. You want a scraper type razor and not a utility knife

 

[Guest]

Nice thing about a (again, SHARP) chisel is the handle gives you lots of control over the angle of attack, and less chance of getting your fingers involved in the fun. If I were to pooch it and create a deep gouge, I would clean it very well and fill it with a little jb weld, then carefully sand it flat making sure not to make things worse. I "might" consider using a SMALL (I was going to say dab here, but it should be more of a light smear) of sealant on the spot, but only maybe. The less goop you can use, the better.

 

[Burque73]

You may try laying the bike over onto an old mattress or some tires and pillows to more easily access the underside of the bike, being careful of the turn signals etc. I've used the Permatex gasket remover and it helped a little I suppose. It was a long process of gently scraping and applying the remover, letting it soak, scraping and repeating. I think WalMart sells the stuff, but AutoZone for sure does.

While you're in there, if you haven't already, clean the oil strainer too. You may find some interesting things stuck there.

 

[Gorminrider]

silicone-RTV will work but you will go to hell when the next owner curses you...I had a bike where the PO used it everywhere and wow, is it IT hard to get off!!

 

[Gorminrider]

a razor knife can work to scrape of but NOT the SHARP edge- use the squared edge at the back. Likewise scrapers- NOT "paint scrapers" with knife edges but the wide ones with 90 degree edges these are flexible too . Easily sharpened to 90deg with a file...
And chisels too-yes carefully wrong-way round too so the flat side guides your edge..

 

[gs11ezrydr]

Excellent Advise.Any gasket material Needs to be done with caution.Just gasket no aluminum ..Avoid any kind of high speed gskt.removal discs for cast iron or steel... 3M bristle type,The green /plastic/polymers,ect.Seem to do well with caution (Watch) what you are doing.I have used many of kind of razor blades,modified X-acto knifes and every thing else,The worst job ...but if not done clean and efficiently you can save big bucks doing it right in the first time.The extra time cleaning will pay off.

 

[timebombprod]

You may try laying the bike over onto an old mattress or some tires and pillows to more easily access the underside of the bike, being careful of the turn signals etc. I've used the Permatex gasket remover and it helped a little I suppose. It was a long process of gently scraping and applying the remover, letting it soak, scraping and repeating. I think WalMart sells the stuff, but AutoZone for sure does.

While you're in there, if you haven't already, clean the oil strainer too. You may find some interesting things stuck there.

oilstrainer?whatisthatexactly? ive done the oil filter and cleaned the pan underside looked fine. not sure if your strainer means my filter.

 

[Rob S.]

...oil strainer means my filter?

No, it's something else.

 

[Burque73]

oilstrainer?whatisthatexactly? ive done the oil filter and cleaned the pan underside looked fine. not sure if your strainer means my filter.

If you look in the parts fiche it shows a small screen right below the oil pump.

 

[superawesome]

its on oem gasket, i just messed up and theres still old gasket on there. i have no clue what to use to get it off all the way is there anything i could scrub the old gasket off with that wouldnt damage the metal?

if there's only small pieces of gasket left, I use this stuff to scrub them off. Doesn't harm the metal (kind of synthetic fleece) and worked well for me for several gaskets. When rebuilding my engine I got quite impatient with the gaskets, and I soon realized that something sharp (like a chisel) is the wrong tool for my clumsy hands...

 

[Guest]

Glad I'm not the only one who gets impatient with gaskets. My heart sinks when the old gasket comes off in one piece apart from the bit you need to be hanging upside down from the roof to be able to get to it. Or worse still, the bit behind the part you have just spent 3 hours fiddling around to get fixed in place sticks. Do you faff with it for an hour or two or remove offending part, clean the gasket then spend 4 more lovely hours cursing (3 hours the first time, 4 hours for the second, because you forgot how you managed to get the damn thing into place the first time).