Cylinder Head Stripping Suggestions

[srsupertrap]

I used the Universal Aluminum. My guess is Nu-cast will be duller.

Ed,

Being almost as frugal as you do you have any recommendations of where to by VHT these days at fair price?

Thx,
Steve

 

[cowboyup3371]

OReilly's is selling VHT paint for about $5 in the spray can. I'm not sure how much Dale's is selling it for, if they have it. They are on the corner of Circle and Platte.

 

[srsupertrap]

OReilly's is selling VHT paint for about $5 in the spray can. I'm not sure how much Dale's is selling it for, if they have it. They are on the corner of Circle and Platte.

Thanks Scott, Call when you are ready to Synch

Steve

 

[Nessism]

Ed,

Being almost as frugal as you do you have any recommendations of where to by VHT these days at fair price?

Thx,
Steve

Hi Steve,

I bought the VHT from Caswells Plating when placing an order for other stuff there. Not sure if it was cheaper than local, never checked, but I doubt you would offset the shipping cost compared to buying local.

Are you going with the Nu Cast? I think Rusty Bronco (Dale) is on the same path so please let us know what it looks like. The VHT on my bike still gives off an aroma each time I ride the bike - several hundred miles now (don't ride it much). Wonder if that means it's still curing?

Good luck.

 

[srsupertrap]

What kind of acid bath is used for aluminum?

Thanks! - John

Auto Machine Shops have a Hot Tank for cast iron heads & HD shoveleads which will eat the aluminum. Then they have a heated tank for aluminim heads which is what you want.

Not sure the chemical solution and they probably don't either.

Hi Steve,

I bought the VHT from Caswells Plating when placing an order for other stuff there. Not sure if it was cheaper than local, never checked, but I doubt you would offset the shipping cost compared to buying local.

Are you going with the Nu Cast? I think Rusty Bronco (Dale) is on the same path so please let us know what it looks like. The VHT on my bike still gives off an aroma each time I ride the bike - several hundred miles now (don't ride it much). Wonder if that means it's still curing?

Good luck.

Hi Ed,
I checked a local OReiley's and they did not stock VHT Nu Cast Engine Enamel, their price was like $8 per can. May be I will just order it on-line. . . I am probably leaning ttowards the Nu Cast color, I think the Dull aluminum would be good for the engine cases.

I would agree your paint is still curing. Now that it has undergone several cycles of On & Off it probably time to take it on the Freeway for a 30 min ride at 65 MPH plus speeds. Sorry I forgot about the traffic

 

[sharpy]

Mine was painted with universal aluminum vht if not too late to chime in........

 

[srsupertrap]

Sharpy,

I know your painted your engine several years ago but would like to see a pic of the VHT painted cylinder head again

 

[sharpy]

Sharpy,

I know your painted your engine several years ago but would like to see a pic of the VHT painted cylinder head again

geezzz things you do for ya mates.Bike has been sitting for over 2 years so a little dirty. Just went out to garage and took these pics....
or check them out in my GS1000 folder at....

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/sharpywheelie/

 

[srsupertrap]

That looks like a perfect match. Put in some cans and send it the states for my 1100g Head & cylinders

 

[sharpy]

That looks like a perfect match. Put in some cans and send it the states for my 1100g Head & cylinders

http://www.amazon.com/VHT-SP127-Engine-Universal-Aluminum/dp/B000CPIMVW

Same company, same name. Same stuff 11yrs down the road? And remember about CLEAN surface and heating in the oven for a hr at 150f at least. And dont paint cold metal it goes spotty, paint warmer metal is always best. WARM metal will leave you a rough finish as the paint dries to fast. No a expert but works for me. Have fun.

 

[sharpy]

VERY nice motor! Thanks for the info. Would LOVE to get setup to do that to our motors.

- JC

Motors are in washing machines,Do you mean engines? LOL sorry

 

[duaneage]

It's a bit late but I recommend Baking soda blasting. The media dissolves in water or oil and is not that hard anyway. Safer than bead or glass blasting for your lungs. Leaves a nice finish for painting too.

 

[Guest]

I did an upper engine case last week with VHT's Universal Aluminum. Very pleased with the appearance. In fact I think its better than the stock Suzuki color. Have my fingers crossed about its gas and oil resistance properties.

May have to drive around with a bib under my carbs, and if anyone asks I'll just tell them I've been eating lobster.

I have the drain hoses on my flat slides removed, I think those are going to have to go back on just in case a float sticks or something.

 

[sharpy]

I did an upper engine case last week with VHT's Universal Aluminum. Very pleased with the appearance. In fact I think its better than the stock Suzuki color. Have my fingers crossed about its gas and oil resistance properties.

May have to drive around with a bib under my carbs, and if anyone asks I'll just tell them I've been eating lobster.

I have the drain hoses on my flat slides removed, I think those are going to have to go back on just in case a float sticks or something.

You can fit those cases in a oven if you remove tha barrel studs. And no gas or brake fluid problems with anything i bake. Glad to see you only painted the top half of you case as the bottom part isnt painted in standard trim.

 

[Guest]

You can fit those cases in a oven if you remove the barrel studs. And no gas or brake fluid problems with anything i bake. Glad to see you only painted the top half of you case as the bottom part isnt painted in standard trim.

Didn't mention it but the wife was out Sunday morning so I baked it in the oven for 2 hours starting at 175 and working up slowly to 250. Opened all the windows, aired out the house and she never noticed when she got home. The smell of Xylene is pretty strong at first.

I had originally botched an attempt to paint it with the POR process using a brush, looked terrible and was very difficult to remove. I have access to bead blasters at work but wanted to to stay clear of them for fear of contamination. (Yes I know I'm anal)

For prep I chemically striped it with paint stripper, then progressively sanded it with wet/dry sand paper up to about 1000 grit. Then I went back to roughing it up with 600 grit. Possibly 320 grit might have been a better choice for adhesion. When I had gotten to 1000 grit it was so shiny I considered leaving it that way but after seeing it painted with the VHT I'm glad I didn't

Cleaned it multiple times in soap, water and Simple Green, then cleaned with PORs Marine Clean then Acetone, Then I applied POR's phosphate coating at let it dry for a day or two. Then I wiped it down with alcohol and rattle can sprayed it with VHT Universal Aluminum.

As far as the lower case I cleaned the exterior with non scratch Scotch Brite and simple green and will leave it like that. Now off to the builder.

Good to hear your not having any issues with gas/oil.

 

[Guest]

srsupertrap asked me to post some pics of my results, remember that this is one coat of VHT's Universal Aluminum after baking in oven

First pic taken in overcast sunshine.

Second pic is a close up also in overcast sunshine

Pic three is slightly shaded area against my fence

Cropped version of pic 3.

I did auto correct for contrast and color in Photoshop, what you see above is pretty close to actual and not far off of Suzuki stock color. It's looks very close to Yamaha's silver case paint as well when I hold it up next to my 01 FZ1.

Anyone think I should add another coat? This single coat is on top of PORs Phosphate coating.

 

[sharpy]

Looking good. Depending on how thick that coat was looks ok. I did a lot of fine coats all in one go. Lot of setup on the tape. i just sprayed mine and wipe the gasket surfaces with a rag dipped in petrol. When/if you bake the barrels the sleeves might move so just have something to hold them down while cooling.

 

[srsupertrap]

srsupertrap asked me to post some pics of my results, remember that this is one coat of VHT's Universal Aluminum after baking in oven

First pic taken in overcast sunshine.

Second pic is a close up also in overcast sunshine

Pic three is slightly shaded area against my fence

Cropped version of pic 3.

I did auto correct for contrast and color in Photoshop, what you see above is pretty close to actual and not far off of Suzuki stock color. It's looks very close to Yamaha's silver case paint as well when I hold it up next to my 01 FZ1.

Anyone think I should add another coat? This single coat is on top of PORs Phosphate coating.

It's tempting to apply another coat but to be honest it looks fine right now.

 

[srsupertrap]

GS1100G Cylinder, Head & Valve Cover

GS1100G Cylinder, Head & Valve Cover

Got my parts from Kleeme Performance, the 1100G D Port, valve job & mild street port. I spend hours degreasing followed by cleaning every crevice with lacquer thinner. I follow Sharpy's advice and bake everything at 175F before shooting it with VHT Universal Aluminum

Tomorrow I will bake at 200F and start installing valves:

Bored to 73.5mm

 

[sharpy]

Got my parts from Kleeme Performance, the 1100G D Port, valve job & mild street port. I spend hours degreasing followed by cleaning every crevice with lacquer thinner. I follow Sharpy's advice and bake everything at 175F before shooting it with VHT Universal Aluminum

Tomorrow I will bake at 200F and start installing valves:

Maybe i worded this wrong or you read it wrong...
Same company, same name. Same stuff 11yrs down the road? And remember about CLEAN surface and heating in the oven for a hr at 150f at least. And dont paint cold metal it goes spotty, paint warmer metal is always best. WARM metal will leave you a rough finish as the paint dries to fast. No a expert but works for me. Have fun.

That comment was for baking the paint after you painted. Opps
The cold metal statement was for not having it too cold when painting as the paint goes funny. Looks like everything turned out ok.