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Different take on reflectors

As noted, no cycle inspections in Jersey for several years now. Natural selection of sorts I suppose.
Even the auto inspections seem to be oddly inconsistent and occasionally lax. I was shocked that the garbage that is my car just passed.
 
Steve said:
Very true, but that assumes that your state actually has an inspection program. I wonder how many do/don't. :-k

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We've got it in Texas but it varies wildly on how strict or not the individual stations are.

I personally think the program is a waste as I only proves the vehicle was road legal for that one instance in time. There' plenty of cars running around out here with questionable structural integrity and tires that are down to the belts.
 
Downs said:
We've got it in Texas but it varies wildly on how strict or not the individual stations are.

I personally think the program is a waste as I only proves the vehicle was road legal for that one instance in time. There' plenty of cars running around out here with questionable structural integrity and tires that are down to the belts.
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This is very true. I had one bike that was "inspected" and I never took it off the trailer. Ive got another place that he makes me ride it into a bay area and beep the horn, use the turn signals, and asks me for my insurance. And theres another place where the guy disappears around the building on my bike (presumably to test brakes-lol) and he looks at the reflectors, brakes, tires, signals, and everything else.
 
Well, this got me wondering, and any distraction would do to keep me away from work...

We do have motorcycle inspections in PA. A road test is required, but often not performed. I am batting about 50/50 on a road test. They look closely at brakes and light bulbs.

I was curious about the reflector color rules so surfed the PennDOT regs and concluded that rear and side reflectors are required but color is not defined.

I did find this gem which appears to clearly allow the hover lights:
? 4310. Motorcycle lighting.
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Auxiliary lighting may be added to a motorcycle to protect the driver, including blue dot illumination, standard bulb running lights and light-emitting diode (LED) pods and strips.
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(June 29, 2006, P.L.205, No.50, eff. 60 days)
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2006 Amendment. Act 50 added section 4310.

Cheers, Alan
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dorkburger said:
True. Main concern here seems to be emissions.
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That is the same here...but just for cars/trucks, not cycles.
Only fairly enforced IL issues are 24hr headlight and eye protection...and you'd be amazed how many times I spy a violation of either...
 
TxGSrider said:
This is very true. I had one bike that was "inspected" and I never took it off the trailer. Ive got another place that he makes me ride it into a bay area and beep the horn, use the turn signals, and asks me for my insurance. And theres another place where the guy disappears around the building on my bike (presumably to test brakes-lol) and he looks at the reflectors, brakes, tires, signals, and everything else.
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I've had a few that told me that they had to ride my bike as part of the inspection in the State of Texas and I told them that there is no way that they were gonna ride my bike and that they need to go back and read their inspection requirements and duties again. They told me that they didn't care what the regs said and that if I won't let them ride it, they wouldn't inspect it, hey that's fine with me, I just ride a little further down the road to the motorcycle dealership and get it inspected there. The dealer even tells me that they are not required to ride the bikes and as a policy they cannot for liability reasons.
 
In Quebec the police do an annual weekend blitz where they pull every motorcycle off the road and inspect for modifications and violations. They measure decibel levels, the rake of the front forks, and a number of other things. They have it down to a fine art with decibel levels being one of the larger infractions. On that one weekend blitz they make enough money in fines to build a bridge. Last summer I heard a news spot on the radio - in Ontario- warning motorcycle riders that there was a blitz coming up. Reflectors was something I never thought about, but this debate has now ignited my curiosity. I will have to dig deeper into what Provincial standard regulations are.
 
SusKatCas said:
Well, this got me wondering, and any distraction would do to keep me away from work...

We do have motorcycle inspections in PA. A road test is required, but often not performed. I am batting about 50/50 on a road test. They look closely at brakes and light bulbs.

I was curious about the reflector color rules so surfed the PennDOT regs and concluded that rear and side reflectors are required but color is not defined.

I did find this gem which appears to clearly allow the hover lights:
? 4310. Motorcycle lighting.
​
Auxiliary lighting may be added to a motorcycle to protect the driver, including blue dot illumination, standard bulb running lights and light-emitting diode (LED) pods and strips.
​
(June 29, 2006, P.L.205, No.50, eff. 60 days)
​

2006 Amendment. Act 50 added section 4310.

Cheers, Alan
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The PA DOT website lists the regulations twice. I would not be surprised if the two documents have slightly different regulations.


The PA motorcycle regulations are here: http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/D...ub_45 Inspections Regulations/Subchapterh.pdf
Additional info is in the tables here: http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/D...als/Pub_45 Inspections Regulations/tables.pdf


The regulations are also here: http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/D...als/Pub_45 Inspections Regulations/PUB-45.pdf


The text states that a rear reflector is required. Table V provides location & color requirements for side & rear reflectors.
The text states that turn signals are optional. Table V provides turn signal location & color requirements.


This is a government document. So?
The text states that turn signals & brake lights may be combined, but the tables state that there must be a separation of at least 4 inches.
The text states that there may be either 1 or 2 headlights, but the tables state that there must be 2.
The tables state that cars & motorcycles must have 1 backup light.


Those aftermarket integrated taillights don?t meet the turn signal requirements.
But turn signals are not required. And the integrated turn signals were ?added to protect the driver? and are LEDs.
So are they OK because of ? 4310?
 
I was clearing out my neighbours estate a few years ago and came across a handbook for drivers from 1930. It is called "The Highway Code" Issued by the Ministry of Transport with the authority of Parliament for the Guidance and safety of all road users. It outlays hand signals to be given by Police and drivers, signals to other drivers and traffic signals. There is a small section dedicated to motorcyclists - Most of the foregoing requirements apply to you In addition - You must not - carry more than one passenger on a two wheeled machine and the passenger must sit astride the cycle on a proper seat securely fixed behind the drivers seat ( RTA, 1930 section 16)
To drivers of horse drawn vehicles:
You must
hold the reins unless your horse is conducted by someone else (HA 1835 section 78)
Observe traffic signals and signs (RTA 1930 section 39)
At night , see that your lamps are alight (RTLA 1927 section 1)
You must not
Drive furiously so as to endanger the life or limb of anyone, including yourself ( HA 1835 section 78)
Be so far away from your horse that you have not control over it (HA 1835 section 78)
Drive if you are drunk (Licencing act 1872 section 12)
Have your vehicle in a position where danger or obstruction is likely to arise or on a pedestrian crossing. ( RTA 1930 section 50, HA 1835 section 72)

If you ride a horse or are in charge of horses or other animals, study this section.
When leading an animal, always place yourself between it and the traffic and keep the animal to the edge of the road. This rule applies equally whether you are walking or riding. When leading an animal, do not ride a bicycle.

Hints on Driving
A good driver, although he may use different controls in quick succession, should be very observant and never allow himself to be placed in such a position that he must try to do too many things at the same time. His whole method of driving should be mapped out. It should be deliberate and thoughtful, which means that he should never need to be hurried, as he must always be master of his machine. In other words, he should be competent to drive it and be equally competent in controlling himself. Always concentrate on your driving.

There is a graph on the inside of the rear cover that covers braking distance and thinking distance

speed thinking distance braking distance overall stopping distance ( all in feet)
10 mph 10 ' 5' 15'
20 mph 20' 20' 40'
30 mph 30' 45' 75'
40 mph 40' 80' 120'
50 mph 50' 125' 175'
 
Agemax, that looks cool.

Phred, some parts of that code book are still surprisingly appropriate.
 
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