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Easy way to clean the "inside" of your engine..

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If you want to clean the back of your valves, ports, top of pistons, carb jets and needles, just pour in a quart of Xylene or Toluene in your tank...
Xylene is used to clean fuel injectors and combustion chambers (see back of most "Fuel System Cleaner", bottles for ingredients) Also used in the "Goof Off" paint remover when you splatter some paint while painting.
I use it in my turbo Buick to clean and boost the octane since I run 19lbs on the street. Run 24lbs on the strip..
You won't hurt anything since Xylene is already in gasoline, (used as a cleaner and octane booster) If you use it in large amounts in your car , add a little Marvel Mystery Oil , since Xylene is dry, Marvel Oil just replaces the mild lubricant that gas has....Use MMO when using 2 gallons or more in your car. About 1oz per 2 gallons of gas....Be carefull putting in your tank, pour it it in a container with a spout first then use a funnel to pour in slowly..... You can get Xylene at any paint store or hardware store.. Xylene is 117 Octane, Toluene is 112 Octane.. It works !!

Here's what's in your garden variety unleaded gas below:

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Material Safety Data Sheet
SECTION 1 PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

CHEVRON and TEXACO PREMIUM UNLEADED GASOLINES
Product Use: Fuel
Product Number(s): CPS201019 [See Section 16 for Additional Product Numbers]
Synonyms: Calco Premium Gasoline, Chevron Premium Unleaded Gasoline, Chevron Supreme Unleaded Gasoline, Texaco Power Premium Unleaded Gasoline
Company Identification
Chevron Products Company
Marketing, MSDS Coordinator
6001 Bollinger Canyon Road
San Ramon, CA 94583
United States of America

Transportation Emergency Response
CHEMTREC: (800) 424-9300 or (703) 527-3887
Health Emergency
ChevronTexaco Emergency Information Center: Located in the USA. International collect calls accepted. (800) 231-0623 or (510) 231-0623
Product Information
Technical Information: (510) 242-5357

SPECIAL NOTES: This MSDS applies to: all motor gasoline.

SECTION 2 COMPOSITION/ INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS


COMPONENTS CAS NUMBER AMOUNT
Gasoline 86290-81-5 100 %volume
Benzene 71-43-2 0.1 - 4.9 %volume
Toluene (methylbenzene) 108-88-3 1 - 17 %volume
Ethyl benzene 100-41-4 0.1 - 3 %volume
Xylene (contains o-, m-, & p- xylene isomers in varying amounts) 1330-20-7 1 - 15 %volume
Butane 106-97-8 1 - 12 %volume
Heptane 142-82-5 1 - 4 %volume
Hexane 110-54-3 1 - 5 %volume
Cyclohexane 110-82-7 1 - 3 %volume
Methylcyclohexane 108-87-2 1 - 2 %volume
Pentane, 2,2,4-trimethyl- (Isooctane) 540-84-1 1 - 13 %volume
Naphthalene 91-20-3 0.1 - 2 %volume
Ethanol 64-17-5 0 - 10 %volume
Methyl tert-butyl ether (MTBE) 1634-04-4 0 - 15 %volume
Tertiary amyl methyl ether (TAME) 994-05-8 0 - 17 %volume
Ethyl tert-butyl ether (ETBE) 637-92-3 0 - 18 %volume


Motor gasoline is considered a mixture by EPA under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA). The refinery streams used to blend motor gasoline are all on the TSCA Chemical Substances Inventory. The appropriate CAS number for refinery blended motor gasoline is 86290-81-5. The product specifications of motor gasoline sold in your area will depend on applicable Federal and State regulations.



SECTION 3 HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION









:)
 
just think, i am a mechanic at a chemical factory and we use most of them chemicals weekly,freeeeee high octaine gasoliiiineeeee :twisted:
 
After the xylene.

After the xylene.

Will my bike still like me in the morning?

After you run the quart of xylene or toluene have you dried out the seals and need to add oil like in the car? Remember we are talking about some older engines and seals, etc.
 
When this thread first got started I meant to reply. If you add up all those percentages you get sometning like 145%. That number may not be quite right but when I first read this I know it was over 140%
 
Billy Ricks said:
When this thread first got started I meant to reply. If you add up all those percentages you get sometning like 145%. That number may not be quite right but when I first read this I know it was over 140%

If you use 4 gallons of gas to 1 quart of Xylene , you would have 6.25 % mixture a Xylene.....

If you use 4 gallons of gas to 1 gallon Xylene, you would have 25% mixture of Xylene :)

1 divided by 4 = .25 (25%)

1 qt (.25) divided by 4 = .0625 (6.25%)

145% of xylene would be 5.8 gallons of xylene mixed with 4 gallons of gas.






:)
 
Re: After the xylene.

Re: After the xylene.

steve4mc said:
Will my bike still like me in the morning?

After you run the quart of xylene or toluene have you dried out the seals and need to add oil like in the car? Remember we are talking about some older engines and seals, etc.


The gas you use already has Xylene in it , up to 15%.
A quart of Xylene mixed with 4 gallons of gas is only 6.25% of Xylene . My first post shows percentage of Xylene and other stuff in gas......... It doesn't hurt anything. It adds more cleaning and octane for your motor...I'm using it in a 20 year old GS1150 :)
 
Napthalene - how much octane it has?

But I wonder If I really would need to add this? In Malaysia Standard gasoline is 97 octane ............. Its hard to find station that would sell the 92octane fuel anymore.
 
Tuolene was also the main ingredient in the Fuel system cleaning we did at a lube-shop, where it just went in the air intake for the cars.


your not supposed to rev the engine high while doing it though apparently.



I wondered whether getting some sort of tuolene spray through the intake boot screws might be a bad thing , since it would be hard to do on all 4 cylinders. if you could do it, would it be good to do?


maybe some 4 line rig to each boot with a light spray getting sucked up by vacuum?
 
Billy Ricks said:
When this thread first got started I meant to reply. If you add up all those percentages you get sometning like 145%. That number may not be quite right but when I first read this I know it was over 140%

If you look carefully, you will see that most of the compounds have a range of percentages listed. I am sure that it is different for every manufacturer and type of gas. For example, methanol can be anywhere from zero to ten percent of the mixture.






Matt
 
Acme said:
If you use 4 gallons of gas to 1 gallon Xylene, you would have 25% mixture of Xylene

Wouldn't that be a 20% mixture of Xylene?
 
More than you ever wanted to know about gasoline

More than you ever wanted to know about gasoline

The octane rating is the most important characteristic of gasoline (petrol) and other fuels used in spark-ignition internal combustion engines. It is a measure of how resistant the fuel is to premature detonation (knocking). It is measured relative to a mixture of 2,2,4-trimethylpentane (an isomer of octane) and n-heptane. So an 87-octane gasoline has the same knock resistance as a mixture of 87% isooctane and 13% n-heptane. A complementary standard for diesel fuel is the cetane number.
The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel through a specific test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing these results with those for mixtures of isooctane and n-heptane.

There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, a higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON. Normally fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON.

In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "normal" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91 in Europe.

It is possible for a fuel to have a RON greater than 100, because isooctane is not the most knock-resistant substance available. Racing fuels, straight ethanol, Avgas and LPG typically have octane ratings of 110 or significantly higher. Typical "octane booster" additives include tetra-ethyl lead and toluene.

Higher octane ratings correlate to higher activation energies. Activation energy is the amount of energy necessary to start a chemical reaction- since higher octane fuels have higher activation energies, it is less likely that a given compression ratio will cause knocking.
It might seem odd that fuels with higher octane ratings burn less easily, yet are popularly thought of as more powerful. Using a fuel with a higher octane lets an engine be run at a higher compression ratio without having problems with knock. Compression is directly related to power, so engines that require higher octane usually deliver more power. Some high-performance engines are designed to operate with a compression ratio associated with high octane numbers, and thus demand high-octane gasoline. It should be noted that the power output of an engine also depends on the energy content of its fuel, which bears no simple relationship to the octane rating. Some people believe that adding a higher octane fuel to their engine will increase its performance or lessen its fuel consumption; this is mostly false?engines perform best when using fuel with the octane rating they were designed for and any increase in performance is minimal.

The octane rating was developed by the chemist Russell Marker. The selection of n-heptane as the zero point of the scale was due to the availability of very high purity n-heptane, not mixed with other isomers of heptane or octane, distilled from the resin of the Jeffrey Pine. Other sources of heptane produced from crude oil contain a mixture of different isomers with greatly differing ratings, which would not give a precise zero point.
 
michel said:
Where can I buy Xylene or Toluene ?

Acme said:
If you want to clean the back of your valves, ports, top of pistons, carb jets and needles, just pour in a quart of Xylene or Toluene in your tank...
Xylene is used to clean fuel injectors and combustion chambers (see back of most "Fuel System Cleaner", bottles for ingredients) Also used in the "Goof Off" paint remover when you splatter some paint while painting.
You won't hurt anything since Xylene is already in gasoline, (used as a cleaner and octane booster) If you use it in large amounts in your car , add a little Marvel Mystery Oil , since Xylene is dry, Marvel Oil just replaces the mild lubricant that gas has....Use MMO when using 2 gallons or more in your car. About 1oz per 2 gallons of gas....Be carefull putting in your tank, pour it it in a container with a spout first then use a funnel to pour in slowly..... You can get Xylene at any paint store or hardware store.. Xylene is 117 Octane, Toluene is 112 Octane.. It works !!
 
Never heard of Xylene before. Does it have another technical name more common in the old world? :?
 
If you just want to clean your valves and combustion chamber....there's a magical substance you can use....


Distilled water.... Get a plant type sprayer (like a windex deal or something..).

With the bike running at say 2500 rpms or less...warmed up...airbox off obviously... Use a spray bottle to mist the water into each carb as it's running....Use warm/hot water...... Just spritz it in...not too heavy tho.... light shots of water (Fine mist...).

It basically will steam clean the valves and combustion chamber... gets rid of carbon that gets built up on the valves/ in the head....

The water wont hurt the engine ( short of you putting a deluge of water into a cylinder and hydrolocking it....). If the water concerns you just do a an oil change afterwards....

Anyway...this post made me think of that....
 
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