Engine Paint - PJ1, VHT, or POR 15?

[SteveA]

Info on the header/pipe and the rest of that toy PLEASE

It's a custom made system by a British outfit called Racefit.

On the subject of paint PJ1 have stopped doing the range of colours they used to. I tried their Barrel silver first but that was to in your face so managed to get hold of whats called Yamaha case silver and I used 3 cans.

 

[Guest]

I'm only really interested in gloss back FWIW... any idea if the VHT barrel paint can be used for the whole motor? The case paint is only available in a satin finish by the looks.

 

[sharpy]

It's a custom made system by a British outfit called Racefit.

On the subject of paint PJ1 have stopped doing the range of colours they used to. I tried their Barrel silver first but that was to in your face so managed to get hold of whats called Yamaha case silver and I used 3 cans.

And the rest. Shocks look like CB1300 ones. Just need exhaust and new shocks for mine at the moment. Ohlins are $2500 so thats crap. Been looking at Wilbers shocks. Any one have dealing with them Thanks

 

[SteveA]

Yes they were cb1300 shocks but have now changed them for Ohlins. If I remember right Wilbers were almost as expensive.
PJI do a good satin black engine paint that I have used a couple of times, I always try and warn the part first before applying as ut seems to give a more uniform finish and dries quicker.

 

[Guest]

Just in case I wasn't confused enough with this, I now find out that PJH Brands owned both PJ1 and VHT, and sold the VHT brand to the Sherwin-Williams Company in 2007.

Apparently all the motorcycle VHT stuff was being transitioned to the PJ1 brand. Interesting...

http://www.partsmag.com/news/articl...their-vht-paint-line-to-sherwin-williams.aspx

 

[lifguardct]

SteveA, Are those R1 forks?

 

[Shin-Ken 1074]

Hi Pete, glad to see a local on the board, Iam in Brisvegas as well. Septone is an Aussie company and their paint products are fine. They also have spray-can wax and grease remover for cleaning surfaces prior to painting that are compatable with their paint products. Septone may not have the profile of other companies but they are just as good if not better than most. And no this is not a plug for them and I don't work for them. I have been down this road myself so its just my contribution to the file. In the end I went with POR15 as it can be brushed as well as used in a gun so it makes touch up easier and it will colour match being from the same tin. Let us know how it turns out, cheers mate.

 

[Nessism]

I shot my 1000 engine over the holiday using POR-15 aluminum colored engine paint. Just my impression so far but the paint seems significantly tougher than rattle can VHT paint I’ve used before. After drying for a few days the paint seems almost impervious to finger nail scratching for example and the paint seems hard and kind of slippery. Pretty good stuff me thinks.

 

[posplayr]

Pics Please

Pics Please

I just did some test pieces on my GS750 so would like to see more.

I think I did Aluminum Engine paint with Clear coat on my Frame:
http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=EE&dept=7

I think I actually used this as well on the GS750 engine?
http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=P2&dept=8


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[Guest]

I really need to go see the place locally that's supposed to stock the POR 15 stuff. From memory though, my only concern was that their engine paint had no UV qualities, so may not be good in the long term for a naked bike, but I may be remembering that wrong.

And Shin-Ken, there are actually a few of us Brisvegas fellas around the place here... I think we just like to hide

I'm tempted though to go the Septone path purely due to convenience... but then again I don't really wanna compromise given the amount of effort I'm planning on putting into the job... so basically I'm still confused

 

[doctorgonzo]

I'm going with the VHT rattlecan. We'll see how it holds up. I'll post some pics of the cam cover in the next day or so, it's first on the list.

 

[Nessism]

I really need to go see the place locally that's supposed to stock the POR 15 stuff. From memory though, my only concern was that their engine paint had no UV qualities, so may not be good in the long term for a naked bike, but I may be remembering that wrong.

I didn't think of the UV issue when picking Por-15 engine paint. I know the Por rust preventive coatings are susceptible to UV light but not sure about the engine paint. Auto engines are not exposed to light the same way as our motorcycle engines so this may be an issue...less with silver though I suspect.

Edit: just sent Por-15 an email asking about the UV resistance properties of the engine paint. I'll let you guys know what they say.

 

[Guest]

Cheers, would be really interesting to see what they say. I really like the "toughness" aspects of the POR 15 so would be a shame if the UV aspect makes it not really suitable.

 

[Nessism]

Por-15 guys responded to my email question about UV stability of the engine paint...

Response... "Hello Edward. The Engine Enamel is UV stable, so it will withstand the sunlight that hits it."

Mark Kanya
POR-15 Inc
PO Box 1235
Morristown NJ 07962
1-800-457-6715

 

[Guest]

Aaaaah excellent news! I shall definitely have to go visit them then :dancing:

 

[groundshock]

Sorry to regurgitate a somewhat dead thread, but I had EXCELLENT results with Duplicolor High Heat Satin Black on my old 750.

Cheap, and readily available.

With any paint, prep is the key. The more time you spend on prep, the longer the paint will last.

 

[jwhelan65]

PJ1 here as well

What PJ1 color is this?

 

[SteveA]

PJ1 Yamaha case paint silver.

 

[Shin-Ken 1074]

Hi Pete, The POR 15 products cover each stage of prep and finish and going by the results of others they seem pretty happy with the POR 15 line of gear. Their aluminium engine enamel may not be the perfect match to Suzi's but if all the cases are done with it, it will still look the goods, cheers.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for all the info guys, I'll definitely start by looking at the POR 15 stuff as I've been impressed with what I've heard and I haven't heard a single person say anything bad about it yet.

As far as Duplicolor goes, I don't know if we have that over here, never seen it.

Anyways, now that I have another shelf freed up in the garage, I can start pulling the transmission and crankshaft etc. out of the crankcases so I can prepare to paint.

And, in case anyone's curious, I'm not going for the stock look at all. I want to gloss or semi-gloss all the bits that are hard to polish, so crankcases, cylinders, head, etc. Then I plan to polish up all the crankcase covers and starter motor cover for a nice contrast.