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Goodbye Garmin? Maybe the App has finally arrived?

I'm still fairly happy with my S6 Active and Locus Pro. Happy enough, anyway. I suppose I could keep experimenting, but from everything I can tell, no one's come up with that perfect motorcycle mapping app.

I've heard some good things about Rever, but it's a subscription and from what I can tell it requires a data connection -- they do have a sort of workaround for offline maps (I believe it's the same as Google Maps -- designate an area and it'll grab the data for the region), but by all accounts it doesn't work that well. It will still track where you've been and load up a map as soon as you've got a signal again. For me, no offline maps = automatic no go. The best places to ride don't have a cell signal.

I had quite a few bugs with Osmand so I switched over to Locus a while back. Of course, maybe the Osmand bugs I experienced have been fixed since then.

I'll also be the first to say that the Locus user interface is... unusual. Lots of weird translations. The developers and most of the user base are in Europe, so there's not a lot of information available in English. The Osmand interface is also very strange in its own strange way.

My Locus Pro install is set up with offline maps and topo shading. For some unfathomable Germanic reason, you first have to buy a supply of "LoCoins", then you use LoCoins to buy and download the state maps you want. I think I spent $4 or $5 and got enough LoCoins to get pretty much all the states I'd ever be able to reach. Not a big deal, just weird.

My S6 Active is about 2.5 years old at this point, so battery capacity is significantly reduced. (It did get updated to Android 7, which was cool.) I have charging setups on all my bikes, so it's not a problem. And even with a new battery, it still wouldn't last very long with the screen on full bright (the S6 Active is designed for outdoor use, so the screen will go a lot brighter and with more contrast than a normal phone screen to make sure it's still visible in full sun -- this uses a lot of power) and GPS turned on all the time. So a power connection is mandatory. Not a problem with a decent quality SAE to USB charger, but cheap chargers often don't work at all or fail quickly.

I'm still working on a decent way to seal the charging cable to the charger and the phone port to keep water out, although this is only really an issue during all-day hard rain. (If you're clever with cable routing, you can position the charger with the USB port down so it doesn't get any drips.)

I also try to use a silicone plug or a wee bit of tape in the phone's headphone port on top if it's going to be wet; if water gets in it can sometimes cause the phone to believe headphones are plugged in. I've found it's best to keep a few different cables on hand, and if charging gets intermittent just swap in the next. Some cables last months, some fail in a few weeks, and there's little consistency among brands.

I use inductive charging at night and at the office, and I think this greatly reduces wear on the charging port. My phones only seem to die when the charge port wears out.

One thing I did discover a while back is a website called https://www.gpsies.com (GyPSIES, get it?). Sign up for a free account, and you can very quickly create GPX tracks, save them, and then download them to your phone. I've used this many times to convert a paper route or a memorized route to a track. It's fantastic. I believe you can also load and edit GPX tracks.

I also use a website called https://gpx2kml.com/ regularly to convert GPX tracks to the KML version used by Google. That way, I can load up a track and look at it in Google maps on my computer screen.

For example, I snaffle up dual-sport tracks from ADVrider, then review them on my computer screen to make sure the roads still seem to exist and are legal -- some of those guys will take off down a private farm road or driveway without a second thought. Obviously, you can't tell for sure until you're actually there, but when you see a track go across a field then cross a creek several times, you generally want to look for an alternate route.
 
Great info Brian...
I have not used Locus Pro, OSMAnd, or GPS Essentials on the bike yet, but all 3 seem to be very powerful apps. I want GPS Essentials to be as good due to the advanced features on there, but I'm not convinced yet that it will be the bet for road navigation (does off road, nautical, and even airplane/helicopter navigation, Advanced features galore).

To top it off, just typing "Motorcycle Navigation" into Google Play Store app search, I now have two more good sounding apps on my phone. The first I read a vety good motorcycle review of, TourStart, and the 2nd is called MyRoutes.
One needed to download a bunch I'd maps to my phone first (my SD card is dead, phone full...), the other wanted me to sign into it firsy, so that's as far as I got. I paid the $3.99 to upgrade to Locus Pro a year or two ago, but haven't fiddled with it since.

I honestly think if this guy doing the Scenic app for iOS ends up getting a good Android developer hired, that will he the absolute best motorcycle navigation app there is. I don't give a darn about social features on apps, I want to research and pick out my own route, and input it myself!!! Then have turn by turn navigation on the app, not just the basic "follow the line" type of nav format. I don't care as much about my tracks either. I research the routes so much that I'll remember it all, and any deviations I should be able to pick out later. No need to clog up more phone space.


There was however one other app that I thought sounded really great for other purposes, maybe to fill on the gaps between the ultimate twisty routes and the more blaND areas. I can't remember the name of it, but the app had 3 different modes, and basically would pick out on its own fie you a very very twisty route between two points, a moderately twisty route that's only a little ways off the beaten path, and a more direct route while still hitting any roads with curves that it can find in the immediate path.

Darnit I forgot the name!!!! It was in an article with Tourstart, Rever, and 4 or so others...
Not something I'd use all the time, but nice for when you don't have a must-ride area planned and just want to be guided onto a fun non-superslab route without any time investment ahead of time.
 
Oh Yeah. One thing I really thought was awesome was that OSMAnd & I believe Locus had a check box to route you only on paved roads!!!!
I bought the DeLorme Atlas and Gazetteer editions for my 3 closest favorite Appalachian regions, in hopes that it told me gravel vs chipseal vs paved, but no go...
Google Satellite with some zooming in can help here but you always have that big question mark lingering still.... would be nice to have a way to find out.
A freshly chiseled road may as well be gravel alsi, so you can't really rely on them. Seeing them worn in on satellite view and seeing the black streaks of tat coming through after the gravel I'd beyond bedded in is a good sign of chioseal. Gravel and fresh chipseal on satellite imagery shows lighter tracks where the vehicle tires travel, and areas around intersections are very telltale with bigger lighter colored dusty areas, and dust tracks tracked out onto the paved roads (yellow paint lines give away the paved or well chipsealed surfaces)
 
I like Locus and am currently using it and do not plan to go back to my old Garmin ZUMO 550 anytime soon. If ever again. In app route planning is super easy and you can drag the routes to where you want them to go.
 
The only issue with apps is that the phone is not water proof or shock proof but I hear what you're saying.

Depends on model. My Galaxy is IP68 rated. the 6 meaning that it's totally protected from dust ingress and the 8 meaning it's rated for "long term immersion up to a rated amount of time". In the case of the galaxy that's a half hour at 5 feet or almost 2 meters. I added an armored case to further shield it against rough handling.
 
The Samsung Galaxy S5 Active and S6 Active seem to me to be the best phones out there. I had reasons to prefer them over the S7 and S8 when I was comparitively shopping. Better cameras were the 1st thing that comes to mind. The Active models are water resistant and shock resistant with a much tougher case than a fragile standard model, almost like a small Otterbox built in to the edges and corner areas. O-ring type gaskets and seals everywhere.
 
The Samsung Galaxy S5 Active and S6 Active seem to me to be the best phones out there. I had reasons to prefer them over the S7 and S8 when I was comparitively shopping. Better cameras were the 1st thing that comes to mind. The Active models are water resistant and shock resistant with a much tougher case than a fragile standard model, almost like a small Otterbox built in to the edges and corner areas. O-ring type gaskets and seals everywhere.


The standard non active S8 is water and dust proof as well. I've got the S8 active and I think the only real advantage it has is in battery life. I can run nearly 20 hours between charges if I want to even using it semi heavily I can still get a good 16 hours out of it.
 
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