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Got my new stator and R/R

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So I received my new stator and R/R from Electrosport they are for my 1983 GS1100 G. On their website they say these items just plug into the old system. So how come the rotor comes with round bullet connectors and the R/R has flat spade connectors. I see that the R/R is made in China, going to be interesting to see how long it lasts. Also the old rotor has 3 wires coming from it and this one has 5 wires. I think I have read somewhere on the forum this problem has come up about the 5 wires so I will do a search on the subject. The wire colours are 2 yellow, 2 blue white and one green white. My guess is the 3 wires to use will be the 2 yellow + the green white.
Any one used the Electrosport items before, I used them because they were recommended in the Stator Papers. Looks like the best idea is to change the spade connectors into bullet connectors on the R/R to mach the ends of the stator lead.
 
Sorry you bought that electro sport r/r . You would be much better off buying an sh775. I know now I tell you but it is true. Don't install it send it back. A much better one will even cost less $75 delivered.
 
posplayr said:
Sorry you bought that electro sport r/r . You would be much better off buying an sh775. I know now I tell you but it is true. Don't install it send it back. A much better one will even cost less $75 delivered.
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I just tested the R/R and it won't pass the diode test with the multimeter set on noise signal, when it is set to voltage it says .455 volts one way and 0 volts the other way for both + and - legs. does this sound right to you. By the way the stator is also made in China.
 
G'day, first off my assumption in the above post was incorrect, the wires used are 1 of the yellow, 1 of the blue white and the green white. I have no idea why the 2 yellows and 2 blue/white are spliced together.
I tried to find a SH 775 R/R here in Australia but nothing here, can anyone point me in the right direction for getting one in the USA. I have looked on eBay and several other places but most are selling either no name brand or Electrosport, regards Neil
 
3 Cav said:
I tried to find a SH 775 R/R here in Australia but nothing here, can anyone point me in the right direction for getting one in the USA. I have looked on eBay and several other places but most are selling either no name brand or Electrosport, regards Neil
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Do you have Polaris Powersport vehicles?

The R/R for a Razr or Ranger 800 from 2011 and newer will fit the bill.

Click HERE for a link to a US distributor.

It's item #1 on the fiche, you have to put in in your shopping cart to see the price.

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I got mine off of an EFI Outlander 500 or something like that. Quite a few BRP/Bombardier/Polaris vehicles seem to use them, particularly fuel injected ones.
 
The Razr and Ranger 800 were EFI in 2010, but did not yet have the series regulator. That started in 2011, so check the parts listing to be sure.

Fortunately, they mention the fact that it is "series" in the part description on the fiche.
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Thanks for that, I will look up Polaris and see what I can find, thanks, regards Neil.
PS. I will take a couple of photographs of the electrosport statorso you can see the workmanship or should I say lack of workmanship on it. It looks like it has been hand wound by a blind 2 day apprentice with severe arthritis, fair dinkum it looks horrible. I kept my old stator and have finished hand winding it according to the stator papers and it looks good compared to this thing, I am looking round for a suitable varnish to finish it off.
 
3 Cav said:
Thanks for that, I will look up Polaris and see what I can find, thanks, regards Neil.
PS. I will take a couple of photographs of the electrosport statorso you can see the workmanship or should I say lack of workmanship on it. It looks like it has been hand wound by a blind 2 day apprentice with severe arthritis, fair dinkum it looks horrible. I kept my old stator and have finished hand winding it according to the stator papers and it looks good compared to this thing, I am looking round for a suitable varnish to finish it off.
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Please post; I know people have talked about the poor quality even though the ones for my GS1100ED have typically been very good.
 
I would be interested too. I have one that is high quality. I wonder when the soulless profit weenies took over for the engineers at ElectroSport. Is the Ricks stator still a quality stator?
 
Here is another it seems to have been hand wound by someone in a real hurry, definitely not machine wound.
 
3 Cav said:
Here is another it seems to have been hand wound by someone in a real hurry, definitely not machine wound.
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It may not be pretty but it certainly doesn't look like there is a short. Of course clearances inside the rotor are tight so you cant be too sloppy or you will get physical interference.

This si a picture of the Electrosport stator I get when I order for my bike (at least have in the past). Definitely seems to be a different process if not a different vendor based on the color of the insulation.

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"....or should I say lack of workmanship on it. It looks like it has been hand wound by a blind 2 day apprentice with severe arthritis, fair dinkum it looks horrible. "

It looks similar to Roostabunny's stator ( by Ricks)- they must compete with ES to find out how poorly these things can be made! I bet they go for low bid supplier on magnet wire too. No thanks, I'll take my chances with 30 year old used ones or try Steve's new rewinder.
 
Didn't Steve say something about getting into the rewinding business a while back?
 
So today I fitted the new stator and tested it and by my multimeter it is pushing out 88 VAC at 5000 rpm, so far so good. I then fitted the new R/R and did the wiring as per the old one. The previous owner had done the Honda R/R alternative wiring except instead of taking the red from the R/R to the + battery terminal it is connected to a red wire which disappears into the wiring loom this wire has about 12.3 volts on it. The black wire is connected to an orange /white wire that is either the rear light or the brake light.
Started the bike up and tested the battery 12.7 volts not charging at all. Blown the 10 amp fuse which supplies power to the rear light. Removed blown fuse and put in another, turn ignition on and check all lights, there is the rear light and the brake light working all OK, start motor and immediately fuse is blown again.
Checked all connections and earth/ground tried one more time with the same result another blown fuse. Question, do you think I should take the red wire from the R/R straight to the + battery terminal and the black one straight to the - battery terminal.
the R/R is sort of testing OK, in other words the diodes pass the test when the multimeter is set to voltage but it won't do the buzz test so at this stage I will say the R/R is OK.
Any suggestions as to what might be the problem? regards Neil
 
The Honda RR has a "sense" wire which would connect to the taillight and monitor voltage on it. Does the ES RR have this "sense" feature?

Most likely the black wire from the RR you have connected to the taillight is the ground for the RR which you have tied into to hot going to the light. Theres your blown fuse. I'de take that black to a clean spot on the frame, not the battery box, the frame. Cap that old "sense" wire. The RR hot is probably fine, it should connect to a fused conductor before returning to the battery, protecting either in the event something goes bad.

Good Luck
 
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