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How to polish that part, for beginners

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Escobarclan

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Hi everyone, I've gotten alot of e-mails from my website about polishing. I thought I'd post this so anyone who is a Do-it-yourselfer can polish at home.

First off, I'd like to say that any and all supplies can be ordered from www.eastwood.com. They are the the best suppliers for polishing needs I can find.

Ok, so you have an engine cover that is looking bad. No problem, polishing is pretty simple. I'll use a worst case example as well.

You have an engine cover, left side. You or someone turned the bike over and gouged the aluminum. The finish also happens to have a coat of that old, yellowed clearcoat on it too, and to top it off, it's badly oxidized.

First thing, go to Wal-mart and buy a can of "aircraft stripper", and a set of rubber gloves.

Scrub the part with some #00 steel wool to break the surface, it allows the stripper to sink in under the clearcoat better. Spray the part thoroughly and let sit, you'll see the clearcoat start bubbling, just make sure you do this OUTSIDE. Also, this stuff is HOT, it'll burn you chemically.

Ok, so the clearcoat is off, easier than you thought. Now the cutting begins. If you have deep gouges you just get some 600 grit sandpaper and get busy, work your way up to at least 800. Not every gouge is removable, they're just too deep.

Now come the 'emery' compound and 'sisal' wheel. This will remove oxidation as well. This compound 'cuts', but don't expect it to do alot quickly. Take your time and don't push the part against the wheel very hard.

Now the polishing begins, you'll need 'tripoli' compound and a 'spiral sewn' wheel for this stage. Most beginners can start at this stage if the parts aren't bad, or have a factory finish. Take in mind that even if you have a factory finish, aluminum oxidation will require an 'emery' type grit to remove it.

'tripoli' finishes are sufficient for most people, it's easy to maintain as well. But let's get to the real mirror finish.

Ok, the finish, and this is when your part will emerge beautifully. You'll need the 'white rouge' compound. This part is called 'coloring', as opposed to buffing. You'll need a 'canton flannel' wheel for this. With rouge, you need very light pressure on the part, don't let the part get hot! It changes the 'color' of finish.

Ok, so that's it. But you must remember this:

Use only 1 compound per wheel, NEVER, EVER, MIX.

A cool part polishes better, the compound doesn't 'cake', you can alternate parts on a wheel for this, letting each one cool by a fan.

Use cotton gloves, your hand oil can drastically alter the coumpounds' effectiveness. My guys have 'grit gloves' a pair for every grit. Nothing sucks worse than coloring with rouge, and seeing you have to take out emery scratches.

Wrap a towel around the base of the buffing motor, and put an old blanket on the floor, beleive me on this: A PART WILL FLY OUT OF YOUR HAND, it's inevitable, bet on it.

A bench grinder motor will work. 1HP is optimal, 1/4hp is hard but doable. There are websites on how to set-up your own polishing motor from a used dryer motor, if that attracts you. You need no less than 3400 rpm to polish, any less isn't possible.

Touch the compound to the wheel often, what I train my guys to do is stand in front of the wheel and hit it with the compound, when you feel dusty-like bits touch your face, then it's enough. Wearing safety glasses of course.

Always clean the part between grits, always. Just use a clean WHITE rag.

When you get to the Tripoli and White Rouge grits, the parts have to be wiped with a clean cotton material and white all-purpose flour. the flour soaks up oil microscopically, and doesn't scratch a surface.

Don't ever blow a part clean with compressor air, compressors air has oil in them, whether you see it or not.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALUMINUM OXIDE IS A DIRECT CAUSE OF ALZHEIMER"S DISEASE, wear mask or wet bandanna, they're CHEAP.

I hope this helps guys. It seems like alot, but when you start you'll see it's pretty simple.

Go to our website, www.escobarpolishing.com if you think you need a professional job.

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Hey Joe, It's at the post office. I'm picking it up first thing in the morning. What did you think about the post above?
 
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Hey Joe, It's at the post office. I'm picking it up first thing in the morning. What did you think about the post above?

Great stuff and a great thread for reference...Im going to get with you a few more pieces

thx man!!
 
any experience with this "heavy metal" polish? I am a big fan of the "green" liquid compound that they carry.

http://www.brilexsolutions.com/mehemepogr16.html

i have polished quite a few gun barrels with their compounds, and have always been pleased with the results.

For guns, try the Tripoli with a loose spiral wheel, works like a dream and takes about 2 minutes for a whole rusted rifle, and the blueing stays. (My company does gun finishing too)

But, I have to say I haven't used that kind of compound.

What those kind of companies won't ever do, is say what kind of finish you'll end up with (i.e.: #1 or #4?). A factory finish, glaze, or mirror? I'm sure it's probably good for oxidation, but only for above surface.

When a part has in-grained imperfections, meaning that the oxidation is level or even lower than the surface around it, liquid chemicals simply can't work. They can't wear out or melt metal, this is why:

Oxidized aluminum is like a 2-by-4 laying on the ground. When you turn it over you'll see the termites have eaten along INTO the suface, making line cavities in the wood. You would have to literally sand ALL the wood even with the level of the termite damage to 'remove' the imperfections.

Aluminum is the same way. If the oxidation were to just dissapear from the metal, you'll end up with alot of ugly pitting.

Buying a liquid compoind for 19.95 is more expensive than buying 2 compounds and 2 wheels, and less effective. Most polishing just needs Tripoli and White rouge. And the compounds/wheels will literallly last you for YEARS, not to mention enormous amounts of time and labor.
 
For guns, try the Tripoli with a loose spiral wheel, works like a dream and takes about 2 minutes for a whole rusted rifle, and the blueing stays. (My company does gun finishing too)

But, I have to say I haven't used that kind of compound.

What those kind of companies won't ever do, is say what kind of finish you'll end up with (i.e.: #1 or #4?). A factory finish, glaze, or mirror? I'm sure it's probably good for oxidation, but only for above surface.

When a part has in-grained imperfections, meaning that the oxidation is level or even lower than the surface around it, liquid chemicals simply can't work. They can't wear out or melt metal, this is why:

Oxidized aluminum is like a 2-by-4 laying on the ground. When you turn it over you'll see the termites have eaten along INTO the suface, making line cavities in the wood. You would have to literally sand ALL the wood even with the level of the termite damage to 'remove' the imperfections.

Aluminum is the same way. If the oxidation were to just dissapear from the metal, you'll end up with alot of ugly pitting.

Buying a liquid compoind for 19.95 is more expensive than buying 2 compounds and 2 wheels, and less effective. Most polishing just needs Tripoli and White rouge. And the compounds/wheels will literallly last you for YEARS, not to mention enormous amounts of time and labor.

good info. i checked out the "kit" that they were selling on the site you linked. Think i am going to pick it up. just can't decide if i want to go the drill or bench grinder route.
 
OY! Make sure you go with the bench grinder kit. Drills don't spin fast enough and get hot easily, they'll burn out quickly. You need 3400 rpm min. 4000rpms are great.

What you can do, and what I forgot to mention above is get the bench kit, or any wheel, and mount them on an angle grinder. You can then polish or maintian a shine on your bike(s) without removing parts.

Also, you can clamp an angle grinder in a vise and use it that way. Handy because you can work all sorts of angles.

A very nice option too is to get the 1/4(?) polishing bits, dirt cheap and great on a die grinder for nooks and crannies. Don't waste money on Dremmel bits, they last about 3 seconds.
 
This ice storm hit us pretty bad, we weren't out of power for very long but we were down for 2 full days, and already backlogged on orders to begin with.

We're starting to get our heads above water and I'll update you very soon. They are pretty rough and the oxidation is very deep, but they'll get done, and you won't even recognize them.
 
Chrome is really easy. AS LONG.........as there's any chrome left. If you're through to metal your basically up the creek.

Chrome is REALLY hard, which makes it durable, but I'm sure you know that its' achilles heal is rust or chipping. If you have surface rust then buy 1 "sisal' wheel from www.estwoodco.com and also the 'tripoli' compound. (dont get the brick, get the smaller tube, it's much cheaper and will last for about 30 motorcycle projects).

You can use a bench motor for this or an angle grinder, both will get the same results.

The biggest trick to chrome is using a scotchbrite pad first, very, VERY lightly. You're trying to scrub the loose rust first. If you need a little more cutting action then go to a super fine steel wool, using it dry first or with an oil (such as wd-40 or compressor oil) to make it cut better. Degrease thoroughly and then you go straight to the tripoli.

Don't ever buff in the same direction for more than a few secs, change often. After you're done don't forget to wax the finish to keep more rust from occuring.

There ya go!
 
Thanks Mr Escobarclan!!! Have to admit, this was a great post, and I did learn alot from it.

Now when my bike looks nice and shiny, I will blame you for it :0)
 
HI there. I have one final question for you: What is the difference between the white rouge and the red one (I think it is jewlers rouge)???

By the way, I did get to the tripoli and it is starting to look great.

Thank you Mr Escobarclan.
 
Jeweler's rouge is a general 'coloring' compound, made to work with most any kind of metal, with aluminum it will usually give a mirror finish, but takes quite a while. White rouge is almost the same in 'grit' but is especially for aluminum.

Keep this in mind, it's crucial:

If you finish a part with a rouge, it can only be maintained with that same rouge and the type of wheel you administer it with. What you have to ask yourself is, that when every part of you bike needs touching up, are you willing to take each part off and re-polish them ALL? This is a massive headache. I know people with show bikes that don't even do this. Mirror finishes take extreme amounts of commitment, we're talking obsessive compulsive here.

What I strongly suggest is that you finish with Tripoli, but with a 'cotton' wheel or at least a very 'loose spiral', so you can use 'mother's' polish for upkeep. The finish is still amazing if you use a good and soft wheel.

If you try to hand polish a rouge finish, say goodbye to the mirror look.

Hope this helps.
 
AWESOME work guys!!! I have bookmarked your site and will use you in the future.
Thanks!!:cool:
 
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