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I'm in the twin club?.

Gorminrider said:
Hey, Congratulations on the 450E! I'm going to be interested in how you like it.Too bad about the gearbox.

Alternatives for tires? I have it written down that the tires on My GSX400E are DURO tubeless 110/90/18 (rear)(I put a tube in) and Shinko Tourmaster 3.00"x18 (front)
They seem fine

someone here (GSPOWER?)found Shinko 244(cheap dualsports) that fit.
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I have been trying to find a 3.00 x 18 front, haven't found them online. They have a 110/90-18 that would be perfect for the rear?

Where did you buy the Shinko?
 
There are also Pirelli City Demons which I think are based on the Sport Demons but for small bikes and they come in 3.00-18 front, 3.50-18 rear.

From the Pirelli site:

Resistant carcass for reliable performance in any load condition.

Specific tread to ensure high mileage and high performance over time.

Front tyre with deep central grooves for better stability in straight stretches, capable of ensuring good performance and high safety also on wet surfaces.

A wide range of sizes and uses for motorcycles with small engines.

Low purchase and maintenance costs and excellent features as regards to mileage, safety in all conditions and reliability over time.
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We probably don't get that one since we dont get any bikes less than 1000ccs, considered girly bikes, but I'll look for it.

Thanks!

Edit,

Nope, not available in the good old USA home of Harelys and Herdlys and other huge overweight overpowered monstrosities.

Looks like the RoadRiders will have to do.
 
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I have the matching rotor to that Blackbird one you are testing on the 550.... ;)

Actually I believe the 450 uses the smaller GS rotor (the 274mm dia one) so you would use the CBR F3 / F4 rotor on that one. Pete & I did some measuring & seems like it would work. Sold a kit to a guy here on GSR on sale or return if he promised to post pictures if it worked... no pictures, no returned parts either though so my guess is that it works...

:)
 
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OK, I'll probably take it, but I would like to ride it at least a litle bit on the stock front brake first, just so I can tell how much of an improvement it is. Still need to find an operable engine, or put the old one back together.
 
You might look at these Shinkos for the heck of it...(Canadian site )
I wonder if these would fit.....Shinko seems to make a lot of sizes!
rear 120/90/18
http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/shinko-230-tour-master-rear-tire.html
front 100/90/18
http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/shinko-230-tour-master-front-tire.html

I bought my tires above for the 81 gsx400E (same cast rims as yours I figure) from my local shop...they were tires he got stuck with somehow and sold them to me cheap.
I will have another look at them and make sure I wrote that Shinko's specs down right from the sidewall...

also maybe the 712s which offer a 110/90 18 rear
 
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tkent02 said:
OK, I'll probably take it, but I would like to ride it at least a litle bit on the stock front brake first, just so I can tell how much of an improvement it is. Still need to find an operable engine, or put the old one back together.
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If I don't see it listed on a tire site I call the 800 number and ask if they can get it. It worked at Pete's for my set of Sport Demons just took an extra week while he got them in. Shipping from Canada would probably kill you but maybe some US sites would do the same....
 
Tom, here's something that might help you out: the front wheel on the E/S model is really skinny at 1.6" wide......which always makes tire selection tough. The good news? The GN400's front wheel is identical to the 450 E/S in every way except it has a wider rim width. It is 1.85" wide, same as your current rear wheel.
 
Big Rich said:
Tom, here's something that might help you out: the front wheel on the E/S model is really skinny at 1.6" wide......which always makes tire selection tough. The good news? The GN400's front wheel is identical to the 450 E/S in every way except it has a wider rim width. It is 1.85" wide, same as your current rear wheel.
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Something to think about.
Does the rear wheel fit too?
It's a 2.15, which is a little wider than the 1.85 on the 450.
 
Dan, I do now recall someone with the "Salty_monk" twin pot upgrade... it's also "bwanna" who has done the 500 cylinders/pistons:

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?p=2059059&highlight=brake#post2059059

And you're right, the front is the smaller disc, 275mm according to the MetalGear website where I got mine from.

If I hadn't have gone and bought that brand new disc before finding out about the upgrade I probably would've gone that path...

However, there's nothing wrong with the stock set up and with the new (slightly smaller bore) master cylinder, rebuilt caliper, and a braided steel line on there either...
 
tkent02 said:
Something to think about.
Does the rear wheel fit too?
It's a 2.15, which is a little wider than the 1.85 on the 450.
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IIRC, the rear wheel on the GN400 has a 16" diameter. If so, you'll be looking for a 120/90-16" tire, which has a pretty small selection.
 
I will have another look at them and make sure I wrote that Shinko's specs down right ...
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...Yes,it IS a Shinko Tour Master 3.00x18 on my front...they do exist-or did, a couple of years ago.
 
Cases are together, time to put the starter clutch and rotor on, my manual says, "Take it to a Suzuki shop".

That's not going to happen.

Who's got the torque spec for the bolt? I might just use the spec for the 550,which is 43.5 - 50.5 ft lbs., but if anyone's got the correct number handy….

Found it, 65 - 72.5 ft.lbs., but that was from the sme Clymer's that said take it to Suzuki.

Is that right?
 
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Now I've done it. The starter clutch was working fine until i torqued it down. The big gear would turn one way and not the other as it is supposed to do. Torqued it down and now it's not moving at all, won't turn either way like it's bolted to the crankshaft.

Anyone seen this before? What did I do wrong?

Need to find a suitable puller, is it 14 x 1.5?
 
Weird.

14 x 1.5 it is. Get a high grade. 10 is what I used.

Really it should have been fine. only thing I can think of is that it went on slightly off and the clutch isn't capable of floating.

Can you push the gear in and out ? There is normally some play.

Might just need a bump to free it up.
 
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There are no shims. There is also zero endplay in the gear, it is tight. OK, I stuck a bolt in to use as a puller, was zipping it down with a small cordless impact, not even turning hard yet and now the gear turns. One way only, like it's supposed to. The flywheel didn't seem to move at all, but now it turns.
So maybe that Clymer's torque spec (70 ft lbs) was way too tight? That makes no sense to me, either there's clearance or there's not, but somehow now it's working.
Can someone with a Suzuki service manual look up the proper torque spec please?
Again, it's the bolt on the end of the crankshaft that holds the rotor in place.

TIA!
 
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