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Installed Individual Filters, Runs Like Crap Now?

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Hey guys, I bought 4 individual pod filters for my GS650gl, and after I installed them, the bike runs like crap past half throttle. Will I need to re-jet it? From what i've seen on eBay, Dynojet makes a Stage 3 kit for my bike.
According to what the ad says:

"STAGE 3: for stock/mild modified engine, stock/modified exhaust, individual air filters. STAGE 3 kits increase power by about 10-15%"

Has anybody gone through this process after upgrading filters? Is it a hard project? Did it take care of the throttle issue?
 
Everyone has, if you don't it runs like crap.

It's only a hard project if you don't know how carburetors work and how to tune them.

If you think you can just bolt some **** on and have it work fine, you are sadly mistaken.
 
tkent02 said:
If you think you can just bolt some **** on and have it work fine, you are sadly mistaken.
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Bahaha, I guess you're right! So what do you think about that eBay link I posted? Would that be worth a shot? Or should I just stick to buying a dynojet Stage 3?
 
I don't know, never used a sigma jet kit. Anyone can change jets, the hard part is the needle, I don't know the difference in Dynojet needles and Sigma's needles.

Let us know how it works.
 
csw55 said:
Hey guys, I bought 4 individual pod filters for my GS650gl, and after I installed them, the bike runs like crap past half throttle. Will I need to re-jet it? From what i've seen on eBay, Dynojet makes a Stage 3 kit for my bike.
According to what the ad says:

"STAGE 3: for stock/mild modified engine, stock/modified exhaust, individual air filters. STAGE 3 kits increase power by about 10-15%"

Has anybody gone through this process after upgrading filters? Is it a hard project? Did it take care of the throttle issue?
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In the considered opinion of the vast majority of the folks here, conversion to individual filters is NOT an upgrade, and starts you down a long tortuous path of rejetting and other carb modifications.

So the first question is WHY?

If you use the search function, you'll find numerous threads about this very subject. As a matter of fact, the very first thread at the top of this particular technical forum addresses it as well. Read and heed....

And good luck!
 
tkent02 said:
A well tuned engine with pods is fine. Almost all of them aren't.
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Yeah - I didn't mean to imply that it would never run right again, just that it might take more than a little bit of fiddlin'. :rolleyes:
 
You might just look for your answer in the stickey -Pipes, Pods, Panic

at the top of the carb forum

Mr Cinders explains it all
 
Wow. You guys must really dislike pods. Didn't mean to get you all butthurt about it. And for all you trolls saying "use the search feature" and "there's a sticky for that topic" and just general douche stuff, nobody wants to hear your negativity. I did read that sticky, and I did research the topic prior to starting this thread. I just wanted further insight/clarification. No need to get your panties in a bunch. And to answer your question about "why?" ...really? Because I want f*****g pod filters on my bike. Who are you to give a s**t about what I do to my bike? If you have nothing helpful or positive to say, don't. say. anything.
 
Thank you, ktent02! You always seem to have a helpful response. I appreciate it!
 
csw55 said:
Wow. You guys must really dislike pods. Didn't mean to get you all butthurt about it.
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I like pods (we didn't call them that back in the day).

When I installed them on my old Z1, it ran just fine. When I recently put them on my '82 1100e, I had to tape over more than 3/4 of them to get it to run good until I could get it into the shop (http://www.fastcycles.com/).

It was jetted correctly on a dyno, and it's a beautiful thing. I don't notice any loss down low, and she screams up high. I've been told my 99.3 rwhp is quite respectable, and a definite improvement over stock.

That being said, if you're doing the jetting work yourself, keep plenty of Rogaine handy. :D
 
Rob S. said:
That being said, if you're doing the jetting work yourself, keep plenty of Rogaine handy. :D
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It's not that hard if you know what your doing. There's plenty of information out there, you just have to read it, and do what you read about.

No magic involved.

No super high tech equipment required.

It does take time and effort.
 
There is nothing wrong with quality pods and the Dynojet stage3 jet kit. There is a learning curve attached and it requires a set of carburetors that is rebuilt and working properly. With stock pipes you would use the smaller jets supplied. The pods do not give you a lot of power, perhaps a bit more noise and an education in patience until you get it right. What you are running into here is that it has the potential to be a real PITA and it can detract from the excellent running characteristics of the bike if you don't get it right. My bike came with a 4-1 V&H pipe and a very bad air box, so I got the pods and a stage3 jet kit. The carburetors on the bike had damaged Pilot fuel screw seats and I could never get them just right. After I rebuilt a set of carburetors off a parts bike that had no damage, I finally got them right but it was a two year saga. I regularly get 44MPG and am quite pleased with my air box tool kit and ease of access to the battery. You will get a lot of comments because people get tired of hearing the same old thing about an unnecessary modification. This is the Internet, get used to it. All these guys that make these comments face to face are pretty nice people and they are here to help. You can even learn from the comments because there is always a reason behind them. Standing in front the people who pizzed you off, I guarantee you would walk away with a different meaning that would not bother you at all. And to all the politically correct people, you can **** in your hat and pull it down over your ears.:D
 
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