Either You are butthurt or You now own the place; which is it? I think poddified crybaby fits best.
Oh yea , and I have finely tunned pods; don't you wish?
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Either You are butthurt or You now own the place; which is it? I think poddified crybaby fits best.
Oh yea , and I have finely tunned pods; don't you wish?
Carbs "working properly"? Yes.
Carbs "rebuilt"? NO (not unless you consider re-jetting rebuilding).
Does the bike start instantly? Does it idle properly? Does it pull hard to red line without any coughs, sputters or stutters?
If yes, yes and yes, the carbs DO NOT NEED TO BE REBUILT. I don't care how old it is.
MPG? Never concerned me, never will.
Tell me I'm wrong (you-know-who).
No offense intended.
PS Try getting to the battery on an '82-'83 1100e with the stock air box. In one lifetime, that is.
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CivilRock
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Dood. Simmer down.
The pods let in more air. That's the idea. More airflow = more power. But you need a specific air/fuel ratio for the bike to run right, so you need more fuel, which means you usually need larger jets. Fact: It is harder to tune a bike with pods. The airbox creates a steady directional flow of air for the carb inlets. Pods have a turbulent messy mass of air to pull from and can complicate things. Usually you give up slow speed consistency for top end power. It's a trade off. But with a careful touch, you can have both.
That aside, it's not really nice to yell at people who are trying to help you. You might want to read this thread again and see that you're kind of coming off as a jerk.
-Kevin
The pods let in more air. That's the idea. More airflow = more power. But you need a specific air/fuel ratio for the bike to run right, so you need more fuel, which means you usually need larger jets. Fact: It is harder to tune a bike with pods. The airbox creates a steady directional flow of air for the carb inlets. Pods have a turbulent messy mass of air to pull from and can complicate things. Usually you give up slow speed consistency for top end power. It's a trade off. But with a careful touch, you can have both.
That aside, it's not really nice to yell at people who are trying to help you. You might want to read this thread again and see that you're kind of coming off as a jerk.
-Kevin
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True and true, but how many people come on this site who jump into something like tuning for pods without even having the bike running correctly in the first place? Just killing two birds with one stone, and it's not bad practice learning maintenance that will eventually need to be done. There is a lot of tail chasing on this site before many get on the right track.
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I must be in that tiny minority that thinks they are a great upgrade. You get to hear some intake noise, make more power, have a bike that looks more badass and vastly easier access to the battery. It's hard not to like all of that.
Yeah - I didn't mean to imply that it would never run right again, just that it might take more than a little bit of fiddlin'.
Not fiddlin', just jetting. It certainly isn't rocket science.
The reason they say that is this has been gone over literally hundreds if not thousands of times. Your case is NOT any different than several hundred others and a little reading would sort this out without more bandwidth being used on it. And I like pods.
If you did read the sticky why was your first comment incredulity at your bike running like crap with pods and unjetted carbs, followed by the question "do I have to rejet?" when the answer is patently clear from the sticky thread?
That being said, if you're doing the jetting work yourself, keep plenty of Rogaine handy.
Why do people have such trouble with jetting? The key is to be methodical and careful and only change one thing at a time. Follow a logical progression and it only takes some time.
Exactly.
Mark
I actually like pods, mostly for the killer good looks compared to stock airboxes, which by the way, are generally a PITA to work around. But even correctly set up they are finicky in crosswinds and such. Tough to get them right.
I had no trouble at all. I took it to the guy with the dynamometer and said, "As much power as possible, MPG be damned."
But I think you hit on something vital - "one thing at a time."
I'm guessing some try to save time by changing more than one thing each time.
I had no trouble at all. I took it to the guy with the dynamometer and said, "As much power as possible, MPG be damned."
If you knew how to tune anything you'd know power and fuel economy are not mutually exclusive. The correct main jets for maximum power have nothing to do with having the pilot circuit lean at idle and low power and the correct mixture at cruise for economy. Easy stuff.
It's all easy stuff unless you are too lazy to read and do.
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Rob S. that was posted by mmattockx, how did you attach my name to it?
Originally Posted by OldVet66
Why do people have such trouble with jetting? The key is to be methodical and careful and only change one thing at a time. Follow a logical progression and it only takes some time.
Originally Posted by OldVet66
Why do people have such trouble with jetting? The key is to be methodical and careful and only change one thing at a time. Follow a logical progression and it only takes some time.
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Fvck with em till it runs, idles and starts good.
All the while, the plugs aint too dark/too light.
I like to write down what steps I make and keep my notes with the tuning kit(shoe box)
All the while, the plugs aint too dark/too light.
I like to write down what steps I make and keep my notes with the tuning kit(shoe box)
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Rob S. that was posted by mmattockx, how did you attach my name to it?
Originally Posted by OldVet66
Why do people have such trouble with jetting? The key is to be methodical and careful and only change one thing at a time. Follow a logical progression and it only takes some time.
Sorry. The bearings on my iPad are worn.
Funny , I have never seen a grease zerk on my IPhone.
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It's an Apple product, you have to send it in to get it repaired.
Let's see. If you left out your first nine words, and your last 13 words, how would your post be any different factually?
It wouldn't have been so negative or condescending. And then it just wouldn't be you.
Take care.
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JEEPRUSTY
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HAHAHAHA too true!
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I'll start off by saying that I am sorry for my outburst. I live by the "treat others the way you want to be treated" motto (for real, i have it tattoo'd on my arm). So when I come to a forum (thrilled to be a part of btw) looking for help from fellow GS enthusiasts, and get jerk responses, I tend to be an ass back.
Yes I probably could have found my answer by researching a little more, or by just using common sense: More air + Same amount of fuel as before= running lean. I'll admit that I haaaate reading. My reading comprehension has always been crap, so its basically a waste of time for me to read anything, unless it says "Hey, Stupid. THIS IS THE ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR".
So again, sorry for not looking harder for my answer, and I really am sorry for my outburst. I purchased a Stage 3 Dynojet kit off eBay, it should be here sometime this week (fingers crossed). Thanks again for all the responses!
Yes I probably could have found my answer by researching a little more, or by just using common sense: More air + Same amount of fuel as before= running lean. I'll admit that I haaaate reading. My reading comprehension has always been crap, so its basically a waste of time for me to read anything, unless it says "Hey, Stupid. THIS IS THE ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR".
So again, sorry for not looking harder for my answer, and I really am sorry for my outburst. I purchased a Stage 3 Dynojet kit off eBay, it should be here sometime this week (fingers crossed). Thanks again for all the responses!
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Good choice of jet kit, they have been doing this a long time and are probably the best out there. I didn't hear you mention anything about free flowing pipes, so I would recommend the smaller jets that come in the kit since you have not opened it up as much as it could be. I know you said you don't like reading, but the instructions are important and the forum is all written also so that would be a particular skill you might want to concentrate on. That is something that won't change until they develop a neural net interface directly to the brain. That's going to throw social interaction on it's ear and it probably won't be common in our lifetime 
, so you have a choice of one. Get back to us when you get the jets installed, then, THE FUN BEGINS. At least the carburetors are easier to take off and on.
and it probably won't be common in our lifetime , so you have a choice of one. Get back to us when you get the jets installed, then, THE FUN BEGINS. At least the carburetors are easier to take off and on.
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Trying to help you is going to be a waste of time. People basically did say "Hey stupid, this is the answer you're looking for", and you still got all butt-hurt.
If you're too impatient to actually research something before attempting it, if you're too stupid to comprehend what you read and learn from it, and you're going to have an outburst whenever someone gives you an answer you don't like that doesn't validate your preconceived opinion, then you are headed down the road to futility with a 30 year old bike.
Good luck.
Steve
GS Whisperer
On the contrary, there are quite a number here that really like them. They might like them for the "look" more than anything else, but the first thing they want to do when they get their "new" bike is to put a pipe and some pods on it.
On the other hand, I will do what is necessary to MINIMIZE intake noise. :-\\\
Eventually, if you are patient enough to go through all the steps necessary for re-jetting.
And how much power do you really gain? Maybe a few. Is it really noticeable on the street? :-k
Yeah, on the track, where things are measured in fractions of a second, every little bit helps, but does it get you to work any quicker? Does it help you get around the next curve any better?
Sorry, but I have never figured out that whole "badass" thing.
In my book, a "bad ass" is a donkey that is in need of a reprimand.
Never did figure out how that translates to how a motorcycle looks.
How hard can it be? On my bike, my wife's bike and #2 son's bike, I simply lift the seat, unbolt the battery cables, lift the battery out. On #1 son's bike, I remove the left side cover, release the rubber strap, unbolt the cables, slide the battery out. If you bought your bike for "ease of battery access", you bought the wrong bike. And, ... you do that ... what? ... once a year (or two)?
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