Instrument Cluster Making a Whining Sound.

[Guest]

I am new to this site, and still having a little difficulty finding where to go. I hope this is not a repeat thread. My speedometer on my 80' GS750 started acting wacko, jumping all over the place, while producing a loud whining sound from the top, front of the bike. I replaced the Speedometer Cable with a new one, but the whining noise is still there. The sound comes and goes with speed, stopping at very slow to idle. The speedometer started acting a little weird again. My guess is the problems lies within the Speed/Tach Housing. Any help before I take it apart again? I put a little grease on both ends of the new cable upon replacement.

 

[Steve]

The problem is likely not in the cable, it's in the part that the cable turns. :-k

The part that has the square hole that receives the cable rides in a bushing. THAT is what needs to be lubricated. Not sure, but I think it can be lubed without disassembly. You DO need to remove the speedo from the bike so you can see that area and apply some lube so it will drip in and saturate the area.

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[Rich82GS750TZ]

What you DON'T want to do, it spray anything in the spindle hole once you have it off the bike and upside-down on your workbench. I sprayed up in there with carb cleaner to try and clear any grit out. Bad Idea. It fogged my red and blue lenses over some of the lights on the instrument face. Maybe drip some 3 in 1 oil or similar in there, or work in some white lithium if you can. Not really sure what works best. I then used a broken end of a speedo cable in a drill and run in on reverse, to see if it loosens up, stops whining. I don't know of anything else you could use in the drill if you don't have a broken piece of square-end cable.

 

[Steve]

I don't know of anything else you could use in the drill if you don't have a broken piece of square-end cable.

A #1 square-drive bit (also known as a Robertson's bit) works just fine. :encouragement:

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[Rich82GS750TZ]

I’ll have to remember that. Thanks Steve.

 

[rphillips]

Hope oil or grease will help. I wasn't that lucky. The rubber on the inner hub that turns the speedo had deteriorated. I found no fix other than replace the speedo. Mine was a Honda CB1100F, not a GS

 

[steve murdoch]

I used just two drops of sewing machine oil in an upside down instrument pod and it cleared up a slow and whiny tach.
This was after replacing the cable proved unsuccessful.

 

[Redman]

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of a speedo cable in a drill and run in on reverse, to see if it loosens up, stops whining. I don't know of anything else you could use . . . . . . . . .

I have used Large wooden match stick. Is about right size. Can break it if not careful, but, hey, easy to get another.

 

[Redman]

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Welcome to TheGSR.

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My speedometer on my 80' GS750 started acting wacko, jumping all over the place, while producing a loud whining sound from the top, front of the bike. . . . . .

Yah, the bouncing is usally the cable (er, um, the spinning part inside) needing to be lubed, and it could be about to break. So good that you got a replacement.
If you got something other than OEM, let us know if it last more than a few thousand miles.

Yah, the whining-rattling is usally the part right inside the gauge (where cable fitts in) needing lube.

I will also caution against getting too much liquid lube up too far inside the gage, else it might get on the meter face or glass.

THis all applies to the speedo and the tach.

 

[Gorminrider]

A #1 square-drive bit (also known as a Robertson's bit) works just fine. :encouragement:

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but Only in Canada! like Red Rose tea? at least it used to be the case- they are much better than phillips....Yes Robertson bit is good, but a large nail point can work too.or just file a nail filed or hammered squarish...

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the replies guys. I did replace the cable with a Motion Pro cable, hope it lasts. I was thinking along the lines of taking the headlight off again, and trying to lubed above the connection joint between the cable and back of the speedometer. I will try to keep it off the face of the cluster. Any particular suggestions for lube. Is WD-40 workable here?

 

[Guest]

I read all the replies, and will give it a go. I am just starting the carb removal and cleaning process for my GS1100E, so I will be busy for awhile, mostly on the 1100, as I have pretty much fixed most of the problems on the 750.

 

[Lorenzo]

If it has to be oil, is gotta be watchmakers one.

 

[Gorminrider]

or electric razor oil, sewing machine oil...any oil that is thin, ages well and is non-gummy...these seem to generally have no colour ... 3 in One electric motor oil is pretty good too for something easily available.
There's an endless variety in Oil Threads! :0
However, whining and grinding noises won't be fixed for long if at all and ...these instruments are put together using a grease, not an oil. Particularly at the wormgear and nylon odometer cogs.

 

[Lorenzo]

So, let it be watchmakers grease...

 

[Guest]

Thanks guys for all the help. Things are working better. I have another question about my 82' GS1100E. Has anyone ever put too much oil in, and if so what are the consequences? May sound like a dumb question, maybe it is, but I think I did it. I measured the oil and added the amount listed on the engine, but after I started it, and let it run for a few minutes, I shut it off and checked the window about 30 minutes later. The oil was barely even visible. I then added about 200 mL and drove the bike. Oil started coming out of the left side down by my foot. It seemed like a lot. Again I sat on the side of the rode for about 30 minutes until oil arrived via my wife. Got home cleaned up the bike. parked it. No oil leak. Any thoughts on this one?

 

[rphillips]

I don't know much about ml's & liters, I'm more familiar with qt. & oz. The Gs1100 takes appx. 4 qt. of oil at oil change. When oil is at L (low) mark, it will need appx. 1 qt. to get it up to the F (full) mark on window. Just to be sure, never check oil while bike is on the side stand, will show way low. Never had a GS over full. I did have a 2005 Suzuki Bandit 1200 over full, pet cock leaked & almost filled crankcase. At idle all was fine, started down the rd. engine sputtered to a stop & oil was gushing out of the vent tube under the bike.

 

[Guest]

Oil was checked at all times on the center stand, but I will look underneath again for a vent tube. I did not see one yesterday, but will look again. It had to be coming from somewhere only while running, and I thought there had to be an overflow tube somewhere. Thanks!

 

[Gorminrider]

There are seals at gearshift and drive-chain sprocket too....