Geez, yooz ockers ave stil got no finesse, cos its 64 yrs since the last invajun. Talk bout holdin a gruge!
I quite like the Japanese. They did a great job when they designed my "Shaftie".
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Geez, yooz ockers ave stil got no finesse, cos its 64 yrs since the last invajun. Talk bout holdin a gruge!
I quite like the Japanese. They did a great job when they designed my "Shaftie".
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sharpy
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Better watch out, saying "shaftie" might mean somthing about being gay. And should i mention i have a chinese friend and care to know what i call him?
If you are going to be communicating using the www, you best become more politically " sensitive".
Here in the US, political correctness is a funny thing. For example, some black people call themselves "nig*gers", but holy HELL is raised if a while person uses the same word (and rightly so I think). We also have "Black history month" and other silliness but people would go ballistic to make a suggestion for something like "white history month". More examples of how F'ed up we can be here sometimes.
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propflux01
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If you are going to be communicating using the www, you best become more politically " sensitive".
Here in the US, political correctness is a funny thing. For example, some black people call themselves "nig*gers", but holy HELL is raised if a while person uses the same word (and rightly so I think). ...
So your saying Black people can call themselves "nig*gers", as you stated, but whites cannot, and that is "rightly so"? Why oK for them and not us? how about NOT ok for either?
AS for "Jap" I don't think that is as bad a word, however, and I beleive this originates from the English, the word "Nip" comes to mind in a derogatory reference to Japanese. And I have yet to understand what it refers to..
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saffa
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from wikipedia
you learn something every day dont you .
as for all this PC stuff im with the aussies on this one
and as for peoples opinion of me ...you need to meet me before you can form an informed one 
Many of these derogatory terms came from legitimate words. It's how the term was being used is what moved them into a negative connotation. Nip and Jap were derogatory terms used by people fighting against the Japanese during WWII. This term stuck and is currently viewed as "bad" in the US, and Canada as well I suspect.
The mind boggles. I hope you don't call him "Yella Shaft".
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sharpy
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Anyway..add any sites from there you like. Thought this was a bike site not a bitch site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All i wanted is some info, if i wanted to be corrected on how i talk ill go back to skool. So i can have a nip for a drink but not as a friend, i can have coon cheese but not a coloured friend, i cant have a pommie relation but i can have someone from England thats family. And now i cant have a jap bike, its a motorcycle from the japanese region? Next thing ill be told i cant do 800 metre (thats about 1/2 mile)wheelies as it will bugger MY steering head bearing on MY bike. Buy the way its been on the road for about 8 yrs and just about to have them changed. So much for that info. LOL So back to basics, any one with good info on suzukis place it in here please or go and get a Womans Day magazine and have a bitch there.
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Sharpy - I wouldn't in the least part feel offended if you called me a Pom.
However, come the 8th July and the start of the Ashes things might change.............
Though why the 1st Test is in Taffy Land is anyone's guess.....(Oops, that ain't PC for the Welsh).
And you can have a JAP bike
However, come the 8th July and the start of the Ashes things might change.............
Though why the 1st Test is in Taffy Land is anyone's guess.....(Oops, that ain't PC for the Welsh).
And you can have a JAP bike
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GSXXZRX
Guest
I work with a Mexican guy and always bring him back
an application if I eat at Taco Bell for lunch. Now me'
well I'm Irish. When Will gets back from lunch he has
some kind of potato product for me. Its always a good
laugh. I call him beaner, he calls me spuds. We have
fun with it. And believe me, he's more creative with it
than I am.
My point is that people need to lighten up. Seems to
me people's sense of humor is going by the wayside
the same as some of our freedoms.
Pretty soon you won't be able to say HI to a pothead.
an application if I eat at Taco Bell for lunch. Now me'
well I'm Irish. When Will gets back from lunch he has
some kind of potato product for me. Its always a good
laugh. I call him beaner, he calls me spuds. We have
fun with it. And believe me, he's more creative with it
than I am.
My point is that people need to lighten up. Seems to
me people's sense of humor is going by the wayside
the same as some of our freedoms.
Pretty soon you won't be able to say HI to a pothead.
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sharpy
Guest
EXACTLY.. all i wanted was some jap sites info and it snowballed into this crap. If i had hair it would be pulled out by now. Glad i didnt say anything about Hardly Ridebale cycles and how they want to be individuals but all wear black jonnie rebs, jeans, shirts,vests and open face helmet and usually bike.
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Billy Ricks
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People are way too sensitive for their own good. In many cases I'd go as far as to say those that are most sensitive have had the least contact with other races. I grew up in a part of San Antonio that was 99.999% black in the '50s and '60s. I got called the N word plenty by my black friends along with honky and paddy. It never offended me.
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Dreef1999
Guest
Quite frankly I don't see the sense in defending a term that holds negative connotations.
Like I said, if you said "Jap" to a japanese person in California that person won't be offended. That japanese person will most likely think you are ignorant though.
I think the original intent was more of a heads-up. Defend it all you want but you really won't be able to change the perception of that word 'round these parts with any amount of logic.
Say what you want. I could care less :-\\\
Oh yeah. 'Oriental' makes you sound backwards too. For some reason its ok for a rug to be oriental but people are not oriental.
Like I said, if you said "Jap" to a japanese person in California that person won't be offended. That japanese person will most likely think you are ignorant though.
I think the original intent was more of a heads-up. Defend it all you want but you really won't be able to change the perception of that word 'round these parts with any amount of logic.
Say what you want. I could care less :-\\\
Oh yeah. 'Oriental' makes you sound backwards too. For some reason its ok for a rug to be oriental but people are not oriental.
Dogma
Forum Sage
Man offended on Internet; news at 11:00.
Seriously though. One could argue that since this is an international forum, anything potentially offensive to someone somewhere should be avoided. Alternatively, one could argue that since this is an international forum, you should check to see if someone intended to offend, if you feel offended.
I tend to lean toward the latter. Anyone lurking here should know that we hold no ill will toward persons of Japanese... whatever. In fact, in this context, the connotation seems positive. If someone is offended because of a negative connotation that used to be attached to a convenient abbreviation they need to take a look at what is actually meant. In a WWII history discussion forum, "Jap" would be inappropriate. Here, "Jap" is pretty harmless.
I think we should consider "around these parts" in an on-line forum to refer to the forum in question. Here, nobody means "Jap" in a hateful way.
Seriously though. One could argue that since this is an international forum, anything potentially offensive to someone somewhere should be avoided. Alternatively, one could argue that since this is an international forum, you should check to see if someone intended to offend, if you feel offended.
I tend to lean toward the latter. Anyone lurking here should know that we hold no ill will toward persons of Japanese... whatever. In fact, in this context, the connotation seems positive. If someone is offended because of a negative connotation that used to be attached to a convenient abbreviation they need to take a look at what is actually meant. In a WWII history discussion forum, "Jap" would be inappropriate. Here, "Jap" is pretty harmless.
I think we should consider "around these parts" in an on-line forum to refer to the forum in question. Here, nobody means "Jap" in a hateful way.
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saffa
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in which case nobody should post anything at all ....just in case .:-#
now then .....lets proceed to talk about motorcycles
Sharpy - I wouldn't in the least part feel offended if you called me a Pom.
However, come the 8th July and the start of the Ashes things might change.............
Though why the 1st Test is in Taffy Land is anyone's guess.....(Oops, that ain't PC for the Welsh).
And you can have a JAP bike
Great example. I see in '48 they still had a hand brake. Mid 50's onwards, they raced these on 1/4 mile oval dirt tracks with no brakes at all. That was the era when Ivan Major won a series of consecutive world championships.
Ah the nostelgia!!
I spent many a Saturday Night watching the solo's racing at Waiwakio Speedway, during that period.
