Just about said something to "Got Harley" guy.

[rapidray]

I have no problem with you being here, as long as you don't swear at people or get into personal attacks or name calling. Being of Russian heritage should NOT be a problem to anyone here & if it is, THEY need to go away! Some people may not get your humor but that is on them to figure out. I'm never above pi$$ing someone off if they have it coming, I just won't swear at them or call them names. Some people just can't help that they are "dumber than a football bat" but what are you going to do about them. Idiots need love too I guess. And welcome to the site, if I haven't told you that already.
Ray.

 

[WolfworksCustoms]

Thanks Ray....glad we talked things over and ya got to know me a lil first. We're good as far as Im concered, as are all others who PMed me. I'll try to stay civil long as Im not attacked....but just so ALL know, I had a splenectomy and partial pancreas removal....my blood sugar levels go from super high to super low....sometimes that effects my judgement as to what i write/do/say.....I dont often make that public, but this place is important to me as are most of the folks Ive met. If i come up with a whacked out post one day, its likely due to the sugar....I dont go on boards often anymore due to that, but if I see my own screwup from the night before, will try to make ammends and make apologies.

To the others....how's that for "childish and infantile and all the other things you called me" ?....all i wanna do is be a member here and get along with most. Note i said "most". With some will never happen after what was said, but i think I can get along well the majority here and help many.

Shouldnt this thread get back on topic by now ???????

"Harley Guys and their T shirts" or similar ?

 

[trent]

due to my Russian heritage (NOT soviet !),

Got any Vodka recommendations..LOL

 

[WolfworksCustoms]

Yeah....not russian (polish vodka is better)....well, some Russian.... hard to find, dad made his own....but if you can find "Rebinowaya" (which means rowan berry)....dad took them orange berries from a montain ash (rowan tree) and filled 1/4 bottle of the crappiest stuff you could buy...in 8 month, it was the Smoooooothest vodka ya ever tried.....the others are "Pertzovka" (pepper flavored), and Wyborova (Polish)....and then theres the REALLY rare vodka with buffallo grass in it....turns the vodka a light turquoise....different brand names for that, almost impossible to find here unless you hit like NYC or some big coastal city which i dont....

Back in the 70s, me and a buddy ran a small still....and i used my dads recipe....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......lil copper.....got plenny of springs around here......just a lack of rowan berries !!!!....lol......

But in all my years drinking vodka at family dinners and such....Rebinowaya or Ryebinovaya is the absolute best for drinking straight.

Heh....so's you guys know....."Stolychnaya"....touted as one of the best ya, know what that word means in Russian ?.... "table vodka"....the stuff you serve on a usual basis....on the table with dinner....common stuff, lol.....pretty funny huh ?

I should get a still goin again....I got the spots to make it.....got buyers.....hardly no law here once yer off the road....we used to make this corn and apple mash....was pretty nice.....now if I substitute the apples for rowanberries....I might finally get that house deep in the backwoods someplace in the Rockies....

 

[tatu]

How cool is that? a couple'v posts no aggression. Welcome Wolfie.
My Dad's side is all Russian and my uncles (Belgian side) used to brew some stuff that was light brown in colour that was pulled out on special occasions and made people behave all funny.

 

[lurch12_2000]

Back on topic....I have said things to the Harley riders/owners after my riding a few thousand miles on a few different Harley models over the years. I never quite remember the models because they sound like Fat Bob, Low Rider, Jim Bob, Easy Rider, Wide Glide, Dyna Glide, Dyna Out, Slim Jim, etc... but that I enjoyed riding on anything with 2 wheels and a motor, and had fun riding their lent out Harley....BUT would never own one. Mostly that they are overpriced for what they are, but to each his/her own. One was my son, another was my other son's friend, another was my brother-in-law, another a lady from church, and yet another was my daughter's boyfriend, all Harley owners. Each one has lent their bikes to me because they know I am an avid rider and have owned over 40 bikes of other brands, English, German and Japanese makes, and they respect my opinions and riding skills. Now as far as on the road and getting waves, yeah the Harley "badass" usually blows you off, but in the end who cares?

PS...I shouldn't say never since if someone gave me one or sold it dirt cheap I might be interested.

 

[GS1150Pilot]

I'll weigh in here on the "benevolent" Hardly David's Son owners. From 2003-2008, I rode with a group of (older, experienced) Yamaha FZ1 owners. We rode to Durango, Vegas, San Diego, all over Arizona, and we also enjoyed meeting at The Hideaway, a Cave Creek biker bar. In the twenty or thirty times we met at that bar, not a single night would go by without some chrome polisher leering and saying something like, "When you gonna get a real bike?" We loved their gawks when we parked our bikes next to their $30+K noise generation units, and I enjoyed responding to such idiotic rhetoric with things such as, "You mean one that costs twice as much, goes half as fast, vibrates parts off and breaks down every month?" Harley riders are a foolishly elitist group: They have no leg to stand on. It was the Japs who paid for them to emerge from the Iron Age, and they still can't build bikes that run as long or as well for anything approaching a reasonable price.

 

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Hells Angels. Several notches below cancer.

 

[Ecklund]

I'll weigh in here on the "benevolent" Hardly David's Son owners. From 2003-2008, I rode with a group of (older, experienced) Yamaha FZ1 owners. We rode to Durango, Vegas, San Diego, all over Arizona, and we also enjoyed meeting at The Hideaway, a Cave Creek biker bar. In the twenty or thirty times we met at that bar, not a single night would go by without some chrome polisher leering and saying something like, "When you gonna get a real bike?" We loved their gawks when we parked our bikes next to their $30+K noise generation units, and I enjoyed responding to such idiotic rhetoric with things such as, "You mean one that costs twice as much, goes half as fast, vibrates parts off and breaks down every month?" Harley riders are a foolishly elitist group: They have no leg to stand on. It was the Japs who paid for them to emerge from the Iron Age, and they still can't build bikes that run as long or as well for anything approaching a reasonable price.

I don't know. I'm not really interested in defending HD as they have plenty of people who actually pay full boat to buy a new one. But as I find your posts to be balanced and thoughtful I might say that you are being a bit harsh on the HD bikes.

Again, I don't own one so I have not been drinking the HD cool aid. I had a '75 sportster I sold before leaving for Sudan. It was everything you mentioned and annoying loud too. If I had $20K for a bike I'm not sure it would be an HD.

Are they the over priced crap bikes as described or does HD have different engineering goals? I rented a then new 2010 FLH on leave a few years ago and it was really well suited for my then new wife and I to run around CO. And the 2014 bikes seem to have benefitted from even more improvements.

The whole HD 'lifestyle' thing and wanna be 'outlaw' image that far too many buy the bikes to get is just lame and I try to avoid that in any activity or group. But the bikes themselves as motorcycles, not as rolling jewelry/accessories, have some very interesting qualities.

Overpriced? Eh, I'd have to say that as there seems to be be more than enough people to pay what they ask; the price is exactly right. Right for me and you? Probably not worth it for either of us.

 

[Guest]

HDs are only machinery like any other bike and they're mechanically pretty good these days.
It will always be the typical (I said "typical", not all) owners who are in it for the wrong reason. Keith expressed the gang thing most eloquently.
I doubt that the TYPICAL herd member is even aware of the true origins of his uniform.
It would be nice if they would all learn when to shut the hell up.

 

[Guest]

Cave Creek is Sonny's adopted home, BTW.
You are truly honoured, Pilot.

 

[dorkburger]

I wouldn't go as far as saying new Harleys are junk. I know of a few people with many reliable miles on them.
With todays crop of people (generally speaking) who dont even own a toolbox, let alone know how to wrench, I dont think
any manufacturer can afford to turn out junk.

 

[Guest]

HDs are only machinery like any other bike and they're mechanically pretty good these days.

I consider them to be decent; didn't call them junk.

 

[WolfworksCustoms]

How cool is that? a couple'v posts no aggression. Welcome Wolfie.

Thanks brother....


Very honestly, in my opinion, MOST Harleys built after 1972 aint worth the meat on 10 day old armadillo roadkill...

Few yesrs back, me and my buddy went all the way to the Javitz center in NYC to the yearly bike expo....I sat on quite a few harleys and felt cramped...Id need to mod every one to make it good for me to ride....I went over to the Kawi area....the Vaquero fit me like a glove and would get that before any new Harley....the VN1500 Classic was really nice too.....(Im 6'1", so I need arm and leg room)....

Engines on the new Harleys? I just did some work on a newer 1340 FXR.....owner went to jail, so i wanted it outta my shop (all was paid)....when i rode it down the road to bring it to his house, i loved it motor wise, but the way the controls and bars were set up really sucked....it was uncomfortable....If I was goin on a long ride, say, 500 miles or more....Id rather be on my 85 custom Kawi than a 2014 harley....

 

[dorkburger]

I consider them to be decent; didn't call them junk.

Understood... I was speaking in generalities..

 

[trent]

Heh....so's you guys know....."Stolychnaya"....touted as one of the best ya, know what that word means in Russian ?.... "table vodka"....the stuff you serve on a usual basis....on the table with dinner....common stuff, lol.....pretty funny huh ?

At least you mentioned it...LOL
I work with a guy about 54 yrs old and he is a big stolis fan, said he started drinking it in early 80's and he said it was pricey back then and considered one of the best back then. He said he's heard its middle of the road vodka now and the price isn't bad compared to a lot of stuff out there.He says he drinks it cause of nostalgic reasons?
Its about the only thing I drink believe it or not, but not a big drinker..screwdrivers..LOL
I have a friend thats a big vodka connoisseur and likes some stuff I can't even remember name, I still like the stolis

 

[Guest]

In the US, vodka is legally defined as "grain neutral spirits", meaning ethanol from grain with damn near nothing else.

If you crave something other than water and pure ethanol, it isn't alcohol.

 

[WolfworksCustoms]

The Polish and Ukranians (where my dads family is from) use sugar beets and potatos....and honestly, it produces a very nice vodka.....

Trent...not sure where yer from....but if ya have mountain ash near ya (rowan trees)....get an 80 proof bottle of "Nikolai" or such....lose a 1/4 bottle....whichever way ya like, lol....add the rowanberries till its up to the top....seal it, and put it in a cool, dark space for like 6 months.....you'll be amazed.....

Its the same with moonshine.....most of its all similar....now, ya take ter originilal mash, and add say....hell, mangos...macerated mangoes....its gonna change the whole final cut....

Oh yeah, Trent....my family used to usualy use Smirnoff (called it Smirnovka) as the standard for family dinners....Sttolychnaya came around, then all swithed to the Polish vodkas....

Its REALLY hard to find....but theres vodka from Vienna ....its called Monopolowa...tripple distilled by a Polack that makes it in Austria from potatos....his name is J.A. Baczewski....original company was started in the 1700s, then the communists made him run.....tough to find....but this is some really nice stuff....

Rare vodkas can be found around Brighton Beach, NY, and that whole Tribecca area....I refuse to go down there...dont like the cit at all....Im a hillbilly....but both my kids live in Brooklyn....go figure....2 country kids move to the city....but you can find stuff down there....theys probably just ship dist to dist....but ya never know....

In the US, vodka is legally defined as "grain neutral spirits", meaning ethanol from grain with damn near nothing else.

...so much for the validity of US definitions, lolol.....thats like comparing Jack daniels to a fine 12 yr old scotch aged in specially prepared oak barrels....
Heres a pic of mountain ash/rowan....the ripe ones ya wanna use turn a light orange.....thats when ripe....just before they start to shrivel in autumn....

 

[tatu]

I have no problem with you being here, as long as you don't swear at people or get into personal attacks or name calling. Being of Russian heritage should NOT be a problem to anyone here & if it is, THEY need to go away! Some people may not get your humor but that is on them to figure out. I'm never above pi$$ing someone off if they have it coming, I just won't swear at them or call them names. Some people just can't help that they are "dumber than a football bat" but what are you going to do about them. Idiots need love too I guess. And welcome to the site, if I haven't told you that already.
Ray.

See, now I think you're referring to me here, maybe other people are different to all that you ken, and you mightn't understand what has brought me to this kind of conclusion, if this is the case, and I'm being nice here because on the whole I think your input is balanced and informative, but then really you might want to consider better that not everybody comes from a nice ordered upbringing. If you don't want to consider, then I can offer plenty of options.
This to wolfie. Just to add I am not a spring "fookin" kid and I've been around the block a few times. That kind'v condescending crap burns my arse, long trip 500miles?? Ha! fek! try 1500 and 2k miles in one hit then I will listen..maybe, Alone thousands of miles from home, listening to languages that one cannot understand, just you and your bike?? Trying to get stamps to cross borders? No mobile, no bank card!! Stroll on dude, please tell me all about it!
"FOOKIN KIDS" INDEEDY!!!
Then I have to watch your excuse of English not your first language? Ha! If its true that you were in 'Nam' then for sure you were chatting well away in your adoptive country language, which you must've been born in, my dad was born in UK and spoke Oxford English, + Plus old dialect Russian of total Russian decent escaped from a whole string of murders. I myself used to be sent away to cousins in Belgium where there were four languages going around the meal table at one time, and I can very tell you that if you're in a place long enough you think in those languages just because of economy of wasted time trying to explain a point. But then your 180 IQ has clearly prepared you for all that. Please can you stop blowing smoke up our collective inadequate arses.
My opinion is that maybe the motorbike is ok, who the fek cares? What is hard to stomach is the condescending sneering attitude like putting about on a stinking certain type of motorbike places you/others on some kind of pinnacle of achievement.

 

[tatu]

Just to add, This was not meant as an attack it was just some words that have been cooking inside. Now they're out.