Just bought an ultra sonic cleaner for carbs

[chuck hahn]

I can put 2 VM26 bodies in a gallon can of berrymans at a time. Seems all this high faluting and expensive gadgetry ( to me ) is a waste since you gotta use so called" solutions" anyways. Heres an idea for ya..why not buy 2 gallons of berrymans just across the border and dump them in and soak your carbs..you wont have to plug in the machine and youll save money on your electrical bills.

 

[Guest]

Oh come on.........I can soak carbs in 10,000 gallons of Berrymans & it won't equal the power of an ultra sonic cleaner with the proper solution. I can buy lots of different kinds of solutions depending on the material being cleaned for a fraction of the cost of a gallon of Berrymans. An US cleaner will clean in areas that the Berrymans can only dream of.

It's just foolish to think otherwise.

 

[7981GS]

Nasty, when can I start sending you some carbs?
I have about 20-28 that could use a bath.
Ultra-sonic, of course! I want them CLEAN.

Daniel

 

[chuck hahn]

Ultra smonik hydroponic...hogwash. Berrymans gets every nook and cranny just as well as any ultrasonic ever has or ever will. You know it and I know it. Doesnt matter if berrymans or ultrasonic..you still have to follow up with all the usuall rinses and flushing with carb spray and compressed air. Also gotta poke all the holes in the pilots and emulsion tubes etc etc. To believe that all you do is take them out of an ulttra sonic and they are perfect is nothing less than dillusional fiction.

 

[Nessism]

Ultrasonic cleaners should be nice for black painted carbs right? Carb dip strips off the paint and makes them look like pooh.

Personally, I like the idea of using tech instead of chemicals, only I'm too cheap to spend the money for one of those cleaners.

 

[chuck hahn]

Tech doesnt always mean it removes any of the necessary steps or is better.. Yeah they are a lot faster at breaking the crud down but thats ( to me ) the only real advantage.

 

[7981GS]

Ultra smonik hydroponic...hogwash. Berrymans gets every nook and cranny just as well as any ultrasonic ever has or ever will. You know it and I know it. Doesnt matter if berrymans or ultrasonic..you still have to follow up with all the usuall rinses and flushing with carb spray and compressed air. Also gotta poke all the holes in the pilots and emulsion tubes etc etc. To believe that all you do is take them out of an ulttra sonic and they are perfect is nothing less than dillusional fiction.

Chuck, throw some greasy rags in a bucket of detergent and water and let it sit.
Throw a similar bunch of greasy rags in a bucket of detergent and agitate it for the same amount of time.
Which do you think is going to get CLEANER?

Daniel

 

[chuck hahn]

Doesnt have crap to do with rags or water..the ultra sonic just breaks the stuff down faster and thats all the major difference is...faster and not about which is cleaner. And by the way, thats just how we CLEANED our grease soaked mechanics jump suit when we were done pulling an engine on a tank or whatever. A 5 gallon bucket with a bottle of MR. Clean and soaked over night ( just like Berrymens for clothes ). Then a simple wash ( carb spray and compressed air reference ) and they were done. Im glad he got the machine..good on him if he thinks the machine is a one stop and your done event..thats pure fantasy.

 

[7981GS]

You have obviously never seen or used one.

Daniel

 

[Guest]

You have obviously never seen or used one.

Daniel

Yep, an US will clean in ways carb dip never will. The bubbles get forced thru the smallest passageways, scouring all the crud & varnish along the way. They work on the "cavitation" effect. Here's a simple explanation.

"When there are teeny, tiny little particles that are impossible to remove by other methods of cleaning then an ultrasonic cleaner is used.

Ultrasonic cleaners uses cavitation, which occurs when tiny bubbles form and collapse violently in a cleaning solution. The constantly forming and popping bubbles serves as a scrubbing agent that in turn cleans all parts, hidden and exterior, of the article submerged in the solution. Increasing the frequency means the bubbles are created at a faster rate which makes the energy released from each bursting bubble lower. This in turn equates to the perfect condition to remove small particles without damaging the object.

The way the bubbles are created is to simply introduce ultrasonic sound waves, which is basically high intensity and frequency sound waves, into a liquid. The way a jewelry cleaner works is that it has a small tank that holds the cleaning solution, a transducer which serves to convert electrical energy to mechanical energy, and then a generator that is ultrasonic and is capable of crating an electrical signal at a high frequency.

There are many benefits of ultrasonic cleaning that include speed, precision, and consistency. First of all, speed is important because ultrasonic cleaning allows many things to be cleaned without being taken apart. That goes for jewelry to large assemblies. Not taking the assemblies apart to clean them results in a significantly faster cleaning time because no labor is involved not to mention it saves money as well.

Precision is another benefit and an important one. Ultrasonic cleaning works because it can get in every little crevice, crack, and space to clean it properly and not only does it leave jewelry looking more beautiful than ever it also cleans assemblies and parts very well, too.

The final benefit is consistency and ultrasonic cleaning ranks up there because it provides an unparalleled cleaning every single time without fail for all pieces big or little, complex, or simple."

Once I get the best solution for carbs figured out, I will definitely be offering my services to my fellow GSR's

Paul

 

[Agemax]

i use this solution, works well and carbs come out like brand new. also good for fuel injection injectors as well as any other engine parts.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carburett...erTools_SM&hash=item43abff8869#ht_2303wt_1054

 

[chuck hahn]

Daniel...your wrong ( again ). Ive seen one and seen MANY MANY parts that have come out of one. Killeen Power Sports has one that I can use anytime i wish. And looking at the pros and cons of it I will keep to my Berrymans. They dont come out as everyone here is trying to lead one to believe. They dont come out all shiney like the day they were cast..all shiney like a new dime. You can all say that BS but thats all it is...BS.

 

[Agemax]

nobody is saying that they come out all shiny and polished and fit for a show bike, they just come out SPOTLESS in every hole,jet, orifice you can or cant see

 

[7981GS]

Daniel...your wrong. They dont come out all shiney like the day they were cast..all shiney like a new dime. You can all say that BS but thats all it is...BS.

But they do, from a can of Berryman's, right?

Whatever.

Daniel

 

[Nessism]

If you leave a carb in Berryman's too long they turn dark. I know because I made this mistake ONCE.

Then there is the issue with the throttle butterfly shaft rubber seals that get dunked with the carbs. Fortunately, these seals are pretty robust, so the carb dip doesn't seem to destroy them (much). I try to minimize the dipping time as a hedge against damaging these seals since they are a pain to replace. Ultra Sonic cleaners don't need the harsh chemicals so those seals are further protected. Don't take me wrong, I'm not planning to buy one, but I do think they offer good tech that has some very positive points.

 

[chuck hahn]

Dan...Here you go again spin doctoring what someone is commenting on...WHERE IN THERE did I ever say they did from Berrymans?? Everyone toughts the ultra sonics as the whiz bang thats gonna spit you out shiney like day one carbs and that just a fantasy..plain and simple..no way around it!!!! Till you can actually speak directly to what is actually said, why not just refrain from commenting at alll!!!

 

[rustybronco]

"Because it provides an unparalleled cleaning every single time without fail for all pieces big or little, complex, or simple."

Unfortunately that doesn't work with fully assembled clocks. dirt imbeds into the brass and the only way to remove it is to disassemble the movement and mechanically or ultrasonically clean the parts. it's not the end all to cleaning.

Nasty, congratulations on the purchase. it should come in very handy.

 

[chuck hahn]

Thats what i was meaning Dale..they do a fine job of cleaning, but they arent a one stop and your done thing. You still have to clean all the brass parts and check all the holes in the pilots and emulsion tubes, and spary the bodies out with carb spray and compressed air. I too am glad he got his machine and he will probably enjoy it very much. My rebuttle is that they arent the end all to a good thorough manual cleaning..especially as fickle as the carbs can be at times.

 

[tkent02]

Those fickle crabs got into your carburetors again. Damn the bad luck. Merry Christmas, everybody! Except for Chuck's carburetor crabs.

 

[7981GS]

I've got plenty of Old Bay seasoning!
That, might scare them out of there.

Daniel